Did you notice the things Schaub did. HE had clear lanes at times and he threw the ball away. He has no pocket presence. He feels he is in pressure at times and he clearly is not. He also doesn't throw deep throws. He needs to man up. Thats it. Its someone who is not afraid to make the big play or lose the big play. TJ Yates should get a chance. The reasons, he can run, he can pass, he needs experience. He also threw deep balls two years ago in the Playoffs. He was inexperienced but he is not afraid to let it fly.
I wonder... are we really and truly a passing team with a run-first head coach? Do we have a square peg and round hole? When you're clearly the better team, I think a heavy dose of Arian Foster can win a lot of games. But to win at a high-level in this league... you have to be able to throw the ball. The other thing that's nagging at me - it's not realistic to change your gameplan week-to-week, and yesterday, the Pats had extra time to prepare - but man oh man - the great teams seem to be able to wrinkle their system enough to exploit weekly mis-matches. Brady *abused* our LBs. When do we ever do that?
Patriots = the colonial army. Texans = the red coats. We stand up in a line out in the open and load our muskets while wearing bright colors. They use civilians as human shields, hide in the trees, attack in the middle of the night, and don't wear uniforms.
Oh, i definitely agree with that, it works most of the time they're forced to play that way. Bad choice of words on my part because it sounds like I want to make him into a new player. That's not the case. I meant his training has to be reset, start with the basics, to make sure he has no imbalances and you get the most out of him athletically, rather than just doing the same program as always to just get in, or stay in, shape. I know he's never been very athletic and that's probably mainly due to genetics, but even those with a lot of slow-twitch muscle fibers can get in better shape than Matt is in. So, both suggestions are possible, and (IMO) necessary for this team to go further with Schaub. the other option is to get a few better offensive players and still play more quickly, but I don't think that's as feasible. As of now, we're the 05-ish rockets. The only difference is our stars aren't really injury prone, which is the bright spot.
While I am not as confident as you concerning Shaub's decision making, I do agree with you that unless a miracle happens (one happened last year, Manning, and we did NOTHING) Shaub is our best option. We really need to add to our offensive play calling, it was for the most part, extremely predictable. We even went away from throwing to Foster until the end of the season. We have no multiple wideout sets. Casey was poorly used until the end of the year. Simply stated AJ and OD is not enough for your entire air offense. We have had shots in the past to get Brandon Marshall, Brandon Lloyd, Josh Gordon and others.... and instead we have gone with Walters. Posey did well when thrown to, I am not sure why he was not used earlier. I know there will be cap casualties, and at this point I would move OD to clear up caproom. Joel Dressens is expected to be available again, and Casey can play TE.
Mike Vick? I know its impossible with McNair basically shunning out any troubled players. But this guy would be awesome for this offense. Look how many QBs with athleticism made strong playoff runs. With our improving line and a well above average run game it would be a lot easier for him to run the boot. I'd love him here but Kubes, Rick, and McNair wouldn't.
smith, tebow, vince, anyone who's got something to prove would be good, even if they don't work out, the competition will keep Schaub on his toes. Yates and Keenum aren't taking his spot any time soon.
I didn't want to start a new Schaub thread, so here it is, the bottom line..... With so many people wanting Schaub gone, I wanted to see how realistic it was, and at this moment, it's not. We are stuck with Schaub at least thru next year because his contract is guaranteed, and most likely one more year after that. If we were to cut him now, McNair would lose over $21m. However, if we cut him after next year, McNair would lose $10.5m. So the question becomes, can we get another QB that can outproduce him, and cost less than what we'd be paying for a QB after cutting Schaub? Here are his guaranteed amounts: 2013/14 - Guaranteed $10.75m ($21.25m total remaining) 2014/15 - Guaranteed $3.5m ($10.5m total remaining) 2015/16 - Guaranteed $3.5m ($7m total remaining) 2016/17 - Guaranteed $3.5m So when does it become worth it to cut Schaub and pay a new QB? Whenever that new QB+the guaranteed amount on Schaub's contract is < Schaub's current contract, and he's at least giving us as much as Schaub. So how much would that be each year? Cut Schaub right now - we'd have to get someone to pay us $10.5m ($10.75m-$21.25m) Cut Schaub after the 2013/14 season - $4m ($14.5m-$10.5m) Cut Schaub after the 2014/15 season - $10m ($17m-$7m) Cut Schaub after the 2015/16 season - $15.5m ($19m-$3.5m) The earliest we would cut Schaub is after the 2013/14 season, and that's if we can find a QB and pay him less than $4m to at least produce what Schaub was giving us. I think the more likely scenario is he gets cut after the 2014/15 season, as long as we can get a QB for less than $10m. So the questions.... What about T.J. Yates? Just looking at the numbers side, he is due $600k next year, and $700k the year after. He is only guaranteed $46k each of those years, so he could be cut at any time for minimal loss. However, we need a backup, and he's a cheap one, so he will probably play out his contract. Even still, could he become our new #1 and make cutting Schaub possible? That's the million dollar question. What about the money you're wasting if you cut Schaub? Technically you're not wasting money, you're gaining money, IF you can get a solid replacement. That is a big if, in case you weren't aware. With the gained money, we could fill other holes, at least until we have to pay this QB big bucks. Why would we carry 3 QB's? Another big question. Maybe they draft someone, and are willing to cut ties with Yates and pay him his guaranteed money. Unless they see Yates competing with Schaub for the #1, but even still, if Yates does take the #1 and we cut Schaub, we'll need a backup. What would I do? I would draft a QB in either this draft or the next and give them time to learn while Schaub plays the next 2 years (ugh!). I would then, assuming one of our backup QB's is good enough, cut Schaub after those 2 years. Of course, Yates may not be here because his contract expires after 2 years, so who knows what may happen. I just know the Schaub experiment has shown us what it can accomplish, and it makes no sense to continue with it past the 2014-15 season, and pay him the astronomic amounts he is due. Even if we can get 90% of his production for 50% of the cost, we could utilize that extra money elsewhere.
i was opposed to it for the longest time but i really think i'm coming around to bringing in vick. unless we think we can legitimately draft a qb who can put pressure on schaub immediately, i don't see the harm in it. the last thing we should be doing is settling for the status quo.
