Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2012-13

Chicago sends us a first round pick (lottery protected)
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=brjfc4r

 

I like Millsap and the trade is alright for all parties involved it seems ( no one getting robbed, no one getting a clear win), but I don't think paying Millsap 10-11 million per season is a good idea. I do agree that is what it will take to sign him, and for that reason I do not expect or want to see him in a Rockets uniform.

Millsap, while a solid player, is not a major difference maker to the amount of wins a team has ( like Harden or other All NBA level talent is). He is a Kevin Martin level player, and so locking him up to 8 figure multi year deals is a sure fire way to end up back on the mediocrity treadmill.

I think Morey will wait and find a player who fits a little less well than Millsap with the potential for becoming a real difference maker and who currently gets paid less -- or someone who is already established as a major all nba level talent in the league and for whom a team could thus not pay enough.

 

I like this kind of trade, but why would the Cavs participate? I know Varejo is down, but it is not like Aldrich is down. Is there a reason they would want to get rid of Casspi?

 

Casspi demanded a trade.

 

Cleveland should just take the pick and Rip/Nazr themselves.

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b87lxqa

Delfino and Douglas
...For...
Beno Udrih and Mike Dunleavy

Everyone can walk away at year's end less Delfino(TEAM option).

Bucks- Puts them under the cap. Delfino would fit right in LOL

Rockets- Dunleavy (as posted many times in this thread) "just plays the right way". Would like to resign Dunleavy to the same kind of contact 3.5 - 4M / 3 years with last year a TEAM option. IF Udrih would want to take a BIG cut in pay he can stick around, too.

Not a big trade but a good move for both teams.

 

They chose Dunleavy over Delfino. Udrih > Douglas. They get worse with this trade and take on money for next year.

 

Nvm re money, Delfino is non-guaranteed next year. Anyway, there's no reason for them to do this.

 

http://www.indystar.com/article/200...nger-went-from-academic-All-Star-NBA-All-Star

Looks like a Morey guy.

 

The Bucks are not in the title hunt so why not save some money on players that are likely to walk anyway. I know we are not either BUT if we can sign Dunleavy to a contract like he already on; that just makes us better. Half a season may help him see he is a "fit'" here.

I would through a 2nd round pick in to see it happen.

 

This. Cleveland isn't going to facilitate a trade to get the Rockets a draft pick in a salary dump unless they are getting something they value more than the pick, since the Cavs (who have MORE cap room than the Rockets) can just make such a deal themselves.

Gotta agree here with DonatasFanboy . . . who seems to be quite the hater in this thread.

That said, Milwaukee strikes me as a pretty good trade partner. They just changed head coaches, have several key players heading for free agency and have a roster in flux. One minor move that I could see made (if bigger moves cannot be pulled off) is the following:

Milwaukee gets: Cole Aldrich, (maybe cash)
Houston gets: A second round pick (possibly HOU's 2014 pick back)

With Dalembert not getting a great deal of run, and with Sanders more of a PF/C tweener, the Bucks might actually value a young true center in Aldrich. They get a nice look at him; and he might even be able to contribute to a playoff run this season. With the cost only being a second rounder, there are far worse ways for Milwaukee to utilize its assets.

Houston gets SOMETHING for a guy who will likely neither factor into this season's plans or any other's for the Rockets. With the new caps on cash permitted in trades, I expect second rounders to become a more prevalent currency under this CBA. This could also be done as one side of a multi-team deal that creates more cap room into which the Rockets could take in a high-salaried player this season.

Nothing spectacular. Just something that is moderately realistic.

 

Can somebody let us know how about much cap space Houston figures to have this summer? Assuming they make the playoffs, which means they will not have a 2013 first round pick (this is my understanding, anyway)? Also assuming that they pick up the team option on Carlos Delfino's contract? Thanks.

 

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/3407/houston-rockets-salary-cap-james-harden/

Nothing has really changed since my last cap update, other than the addition of James Anderson's $884,293 non-guaranteed salary (Beverley's non-guaranteed salary fits in at the exact same figure as Machado's).

Take the bolded figure and subtract exactly $3 million.

 

Darn. :grin: but what can i do, people stopped suggesting trades that are bad for the Rockets. A while ago, every trade used to be Lin/Patterson/Morris for peanuts. Now that the Rockets are good, it's the opposite.

Re Aldrich for 2nd - it's interesting. Monroe was basically pushing Sanders any way he wanted the other night and laying it in. They could use a stronger post player in some situations, Aldrich might help.
But their larger problem is that besides Sanders, they have 3 other other under-fed young bigs who are all pretty talented and need minutes. They should be considering big deals and look to turn some of those players into a starter level Pekovic-ZBO-Cousins-Bogut (heh) type to play next to Sanders.

 

Okay, I just read in BimaThug's most recent article on this website that they figure to have around $14.5 mil in cap space this summer if they exercise the team option on Greg Smith (a bargain at less than $1 mil) but decline the $3 mil Carlos Delfino option (although it makes sense to trade Delfino this season for a second round draft pick and an expiring contract, just so you get something for him).

The reason why I'm interested is because it appears to me that Utah would be able to offer Paul Millsap a four-year contract that pays him a lot (say, $14 mil) in Year One (2013-14) and then quite a bit less (say, $8.67 mil/year) for the following three years. $14 mil + ($8.67 mil x 3) = $40 mil. Also consider that, because of inflation, if Millsap were to get paid in this manner, he'd wind up with more inflation-adjusted dollars then if he were to receive a standard contract that gives him annual raises. Also consider that Millsap could make even more money by properly investing these excess 2013-14 dollars (surely there are athletes who actually manage their money intelligently, right?).

This would be a clever use of all of this 2013 cap space, as you'd be able to outbid other teams for Millsap while also being mindful of the luxury tax in future seasons.

If Houston were to trade Patrick Patterson and Donatas Motiejunas somehow for Millsap (see my suggested three-way with the Bulls earlier in this thread) then Houston winds up with an additional $4.5 mil in 2013 cap space. What's the most that a team can offer a player with Millsap's number of years in the league, does anybody know? If it's at $18.5 mil or higher, then Houston would be able to make an even more absurd up-front lump sum payment. They could pay him, say, $18 mil in 2013-14 but only $7.33 mil/year in 2014-15, 2015-16, and 2016-17. Again, this sort of contract is especially appealing for Millsap because he gets all of that money up front and especially appealing to Houston because a) they're able to outbid other teams for Millsap this way and b) they're able to keep future payroll in check.

I'm hoping that somebody would be able to confirm that Houston would actually be able to structure a contract in this manner for Millsap! Thanks.

 

They are fighting for a playoff spot and their roster is already on the cheap side.
Even if you look at it purely from the owner's bank account perspective and assume the owner wants to get super cheap, they could lose much more than they save if they miss the playoffs.

 

I meant Houston, not Utah! Sorry about that.

 

After looking at Larry Coon's NBA Salary Cap FAQ page, it appears to me that Houston could (if they traded Patrick Patterson and Donatas Motiejunas somehow for Millsap, and declined the 2013-14 team option on Carlos Delfino) pay Millsap about $16.4 mil in 2013-14, which means they could then pay him $7.87 mil/year in 2014-15, 2015-16, and 2016-17; this all adds up to $40 mil total, and I think Millsap winds up getting about four years, $40 mil this summer.

If this isn't right, I'd love for someone to correct me, because I don't want to put misinformation out there, or have misinformation swimming around in my head. Thanks!

 

J.Lin, P.Patterson, C.Delfino and C.Aldrich for D.Granger and G.Hill.
Or
J.Lin, P.Patterson, M.Morris for J.Smith and L.Williams - D.Harris, Rockets 2013 2nd to Cavs for O.Casspi

Rockets upgrade the PF/SF spot and gets PG's that would fit with harden. Both trades are decent for other teams too as it even out there rosters, the Indy one is more realistic though.

 

Lin and Morris for Milsap, Tinsley and 2013 first RD pick top 10 (or lottery) protected.