Turnovers. Jeremy alone has had 12 in two games. Harden, 11. With the way they have been playing, should we be concerned? Could this be their Achilles heel?
I am far more concerned about Asik and Morris' regression... it hasn't been talked about because the Rox have been winning behind Harden and Delfino, but we are getting very little from the starting PF and both starting and backup C positions right now.
Yeah, but for some reason it seems to be working for them. I think it is more Patterson coming off the bench more than anything.
Keep making risky passes please...we will learn from those one day. Spurs turned the over every where also in their 1st fast-paced season.
When you play at a high place, more TOs will bound to happen. Still I would like the team to tone it down to around 10-12 per game not the 20+ per game.:grin:
As others have said, if you play at a high pace turnovers are inevitable. Though recently the scouting reports are out and teams have been actively trying to shutdown the outlet pass. Lin needs to gain some composure and reduce the amount of hail mary passes he makes per game and Harden needs to improve his ball security when he's euroswagging to the rack.
Not crazy, both stem from the same thing, pace. Fast pace means more good and more bad. More possessions for both sides. More points scored as well as more points given up. More assists as well as more turnovers. Except you try to have more good instead of more bad, because hopefully your team is setting the pace and is used to it while the opposing team is made uncomfortable by a fast pace that they're not used to sustaining for so long, thus giving you the advantage. From Les Alexander's perspective, fast pace means more entertaining basketball to grab more viewers and fans so he can raise advertising rates. From Morey's perspective, fast pace inflates points and stats in a way to make players more attractive trade assets to other teams.
I am not concern TOs. more concern how to make plays. with little PNR, our offense will suffer badly when pace is forced to slow down.
Basically this. And on top of that, we are still the youngest team in the league so that's even more mistakes and silly passes the Rockets have to go through during this learning process so I'm not concerned right now.
Wait wait...so they lead the league in points AND turnovers? It's almost like the Houston Rockets are playing faster than everyone else. No...no that can't be it. There must be some other explanation. I will have to pray on this.
I'm concerned in the sense that this needs to get better. I know there were some fans last night who felt that TOs weren't a big deal as long as you play well elsewhere. I 100% disagree with that. What made the Adelman Kings and D'Antoni Suns so potent was the fact that they played nearly mistake-free basketball despite their ridiculous pace. However, I'm not concerned in the sense that I think it will get better with experience. Harden in particular, if you look at his TO numbers, have been steadily going down as the season went on. Lin though is still shaky. But obviously he's less experience than Harden, so the longer learning curve is expected Decision-making is something that should, and I emphasize should, come with more chemistry and repetition. But sometimes players simply don't grow, like a certain Steve from a decade ago. If our turnover problem still persist next season? That's when I'll really be worried.
As mentioned, I am really worried about how Marcus Morris is playing. He is not getting nearly as involved as he was, and he really needs to do that for us to be dangerous. He is a much more talented offensive player than he is showing.
It's interesting how sentimentality does this to the best of us. For half of Adelman's career coaching the Kings, he had Jason Williams as a starting point guard, and their offense was certainly up-tempo but was hardly what one would call "mistake-free." People tend to associate Bibby with those old Adelman teams, and indeed their offense had hit a nice mix of speed and reliability with Bibby at the helm, but Bibby wasn't with the team until 2001. And by that time, Adelman had already put in some very (27-23) mediocre (44-38) coaching performances that have been lost to the annals of time like a bad Jason Williams no-look pass that went rocketing off a referee's head and into the expensive seats. History seems to tell us that a team's ability to play quickly but still limit mistakes is almost entirely dependent on the quality of their guard play.
I think we should be concerned with the amount of times this team fumbles fast break opportunities, notably that horrible pass to Harden's legs from Lin in the Hornets game. If you're going to play at a fast pace, you can't lose these 3 on 2 , 3 on 1 opportunities. More often than not, the guy pressing down the court will try to take the ball to the hole themselves, instead of looking to pass, whether it be they don't trust each other, or they just don't know how to handle fast breaks.
Generally when people allude to a certain team, they speak of the peak era of that team, not in its entirety. When people here talk about Hakeem's Rockets, they're not talking about the late 80s or the Pippen disasters. So you're misunderstanding the point here. That said, I would KILL for the Rockets to have White Chocolate's Kings turnover numbers. They were 13.9% in TO ratio, 12th in the league. Rockets are 14.9%, 30th in the league. If the Rockets had those Kings TO numbers, and conservatively estimate them to gain 1 point for each such possession, they'd be on pace for 51 wins(48 wins currently) and possibly avoid Clippers/Spurs/Thunder first round.
We give up too many offensive rebounds due to our pace as well. Our defensive rebounding rate is good, but it seems there are so many times when Asik can't quite get the board, and it's automatically an offensive rebound because the other 4 guys are halfway up the court already. I guess with how many easy buckets we get with that theory, you take the good with the bad.
