Like a dictator, Obama threatens unprecedented gun control by executive order

Heavily tax and regulate and ammunition and the ingredients to make ammunition.

 

How did they intend for it to be interpreted, if not by the wording of the amendment itself?

How did they "execute" the amendment that would contradict the actual words of the amendment?

Awaiting your, no doubt, thorough and concise response.

 

(uncanny)

 

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Could it possibly be that you misunderstand what was written?

Occam's Razor.

Most disgusting response in the thread.

 

I hope after this executive order that the President is willing to sit down and try to figure out why a fairly well educated population in the richest country in the planet are so violent and unstable.

Banning/controlling guns is good for damage control, but means nothing for prevention and fixing of root cause.

 

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Sounds like you're okay with it or maybe you misunderstand what is written in the Constitution.

 

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. What's your point?

 

and I would say the same to you. My position holds more water since I have historical evidence on my side and you have nothing.

 

I think it was in the memorial service, Obama said something along of (paraphrase) "it's clear to me though that as a people, we need to change." I was really encouraged by that, thinking he meant what you're saying Mathloom... looking at why these events happened in the past and working to prevent them going forward at a human level. Unfortunately I quickly realized that what he meant has no real people element at all.

 

You're right! Maybe I do misunderstand it!

Please explain it to me, and present the historical evidence that supports your position.

(I should note: I'm not really sure that I have a stance on this debate, so I'm interested in hearing rational arguments in favor of your position).

 

Allow me to raise the bar, then!

GOOD.

 

I alrdy have. The founding fathers did not execute the 2nd amendment in the manner you suggest. They did in the manner I suggest.

 

I too would like to hear your historical evidence.

While the 2nd Amendment does guarantee a right to keep and bear arms it doesn't restrict the type and regulation of such.

 

Your quick to put the blame on the Prez put it where it really belongs on those GOP members who don't want to do whats right.

 

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that someone who is "lazy and incapable" became the Dictator of the United States and manipulated the majority of the country into re-electing his dictatorship. It seems like that would take some hard work.

 

That's kinda vague. But, as a point of historical interest, I doubt the Founding Fathers would have any easier of a time trying to execute on gun controls then than we do now. They were worried about renewed fighting with the English, or with other colonial powers. They fought with Native American tribes and relied more heavily on hunting and trapping. They didn't have the technology or infrastructure to be very sophisticated about controlling the manufacture, sale, or shipment of guns. Most power resided with the states by design and government power was weak anyway by circumstance, being a new country emerging from war with a wild frontier. All that is probably why they were so gun-crazy in the first place; but even if they were not, they'd be no position operationally to execute anything that regulated guns. People like to point to the precedent of the Founding Fathers in a general way, but their inaction from inability isn't much of an indicator of anything.

Besides that, those dudes are dead, so I don't really care what they wanted. But that's a different argument.

 

A president who uses an executive order to completely defy an amendment to the constitution? Hell yes that's a dictator.

This includes by executive order.

What's next? Let's disavow the 4th amendment and just let the government in to our homes without cause... if you have nothing to hide what's the big deal?

 

^ Why are you afraid to post the whole amendment?

 

Right, because that has been a huge problem over the past 50 years right? Soldiers barge into my place ALL THE TIME looking for shelter and tea...what's that you say? That paragraph from hundreds of years ago isn't relevant anymore? Huh...did you just say there is an ACTUAL problem with the amount of gun related violent deaths in this country? Who knew?!?