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Like a dictator, Obama threatens unprecedented gun control by executive order

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    I guess if you are too lazy or too incapable to work with elected congressmen, you try to be a dictator. Hilter and Stalin would be proud.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/Biden-Obama-Will-Bypass-Congress-for-Gun-Control

    Vice President Joe Biden, who has been charged by President Obama with running the task force to prevent situations like the Sandy Hook massacre, announced that he wouldn’t be raising legislative solutions at all.
    Instead, he said that President Obama might simply declare his preferred gun policy the law of the nation.

    Talking to the drooling press, Biden announced, “The president is going to act. There are executive orders, there’s executive action that can be taken. We haven’t decided what that is yet. But we’re compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required.”

    Biden stated, “As the president said, if your actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking. But I’m convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans and take thousands of people out of harm’s way if we act responsibly.”

    Executive orders have long been a staple of American governance – but not for use in crafting completely new policy. The Constitution merely talks of “executive power” and states that the executive branch shall “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” Major actions, up to and including war, have been conducted through executive order – but not without an authorization from Congress, even if that authorization was not an out-and-out declaration of war.

    The widest-scope executive order ever issued was obvioulsy FDR’s executive order interning Japanese Americans. The Supreme Court justified FDR’s internment policy under Executive Order 9066 in the infamous Korematsu v. US (1942). Other famous executive orders – like the Eisenhower executive order to desegregate public schools – followed hard on court decisions like Brown v. Board of Education (1955).

    This case, however, is most like Executive Order 10340 from Harry Truman, which tried to seize all steel mills in the country. The Supreme Court thought that went too far, and in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer (1952), they ruled that Truman’s executive order exceeded his constitutional mandate, since it created new law rather than enforcing old law.

    Aside from executive orders designed to facilitate existing state/federal information sharing regarding gun purchases, it is difficult to imagine President Obama carving out the ability to legislate guns in a broad way. But challenges to executive power haven’t stopped him before.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    I could go for a little more dictation and less kid-killification where guns are concerned.
     
  3. mfastx

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    Great thread title, texxx!

    So, I guess every president who used an executive order would be a dictator then?
     
  4. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    so you're willing to drop your drawers, position your feet in a wide stance, squat like a catcher, and squeeze out a warm pile on the Second Amendment?
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    Try harder.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    I Agree.

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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions

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  7. SamFisher

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    With relish and aplomb.

    Dead kindergartners = **** your hobby.
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    You need to educate yourself on the spirit of why we have the Second Amendment. Protip -- it wasn't to protect sportsmen

    knowledge is power, brah. Getcha some
     
  9. rockergordon

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    Dude, is your brains homepage drudgereport.com? Check out some other news sources for once....
     
  10. SamFisher

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    I have, and I know it's not dead kindergartners either.

    Not what you bargained for with this thread?
     
  11. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    hahaha - have you taken a break from your legal work? Your logic and reason have slipped noticeably, as seen in this thread.

    SamFisher -- please answer my question. Are you in favor or against the right of the people to keep and bear arms? Yes or no?

    Anybody else find it hilarious that I have to teach the Second Amendment to somebody named "SamFisher"? *snicker*
     
  12. LosPollosHermanos

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    why do repugs hate little kids and america so much?
     
  13. QdoubleA

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    Good thing we've been able to overthrow all those tyrants over the years. NObama gonna get your guns texx, keep training for the revolution! Protect your property!
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  14. JuanValdez

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    Lol, I wish. But, I don't think we're that lucky.
     
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  16. LosPollosHermanos

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    1776 all over again!

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  17. RedRedemption

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    You guys do realize if Obama were truly a dictator, complete unrestricted sale and possession of guns won't even put a dent into the most technologically superior military entity on Earth?

    If a dictator wanted to put down its citizens, then there would be no stopping them. This isn't 1776 anymore.
     
  18. Nice Rollin

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    Sounds like a plan. I wish I couldvote ffor this dictator again
     
  19. Air Langhi

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    Then why can't the most powerful military in the history of world beat a bunch of guys in caves with AKs?
     
  20. QdoubleA

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    ....sigh.
     

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