yeah that's not crane and woody williams didn't get a vote http://bbwaa.com/ a list of the votes and percentages are on the right
Yeah, it just says it was his first year on the ballot, but I can see the confusion with the way it's laid out. I even thought he got a vote.
No he's right.... that 1 in the far-right column was for years on the ballot. Middle column is for votes. Still... Aaron Sele got 1 vote. Jesus...
no it doesn't it says he was on the ballot but got 0 votes. I think you're getting the columns confused. One is "Years on Ballot" the other is "Votes (Pct.)"
This is an utter slap in the face that Biggio didn't make it. I guess postseason success means more than 3000 hits. Biggio is probably seen as an overachiever rather than a truly skilled generational talent that the hall looks for in first ballot hall of famers.
Looking at Barry Larkin's voting numbers who I think is a good contemporary comparison player to Biggio, he got 51.6% his first year, 62.1% his second year, and 86.4% his third year. So Biggio should be in next year and if not next year then a lock for his third season. Bagwell might be another two or three years. Also, Mike Mussina seems to me the pitching version of Biggio except of course he played for the Yankees. It'll be interesting to see if he gets in next year on the first ballot.
Yea Biggio should get in next year but that man deserves to be known as a first ballot Hall of Famer. It's a f'n disgrace.
You know there are voters out there who think Biggio deserve to be in the HOF but don't think he's a "first ballot" Hall of Famer so they didn't vote for him. BS like that drives me nuts.
I'm now officially worried about Bagwell. His jump wasn't nearly as big as expected. To not cross 60%... it could portend of an ultimately stalled campaign. Thomas joins the list next year and absolutely DWARFS Bagwell's #s with no PED suspicions. And then Griffey jumps on the following year, not to mention the vote for Bonds will start to thaw... Interestingly, if Biggio had retired after the 2005 season (his last not-horrible season), he would have finished with nearly the exact same line as Larkin (.285/.370/.437 for Biggio; .295/.371/.444 for Larkin) while still holding huge advantages in nearly all the counting stats (runs, hits, home runs, RBIs, SBs)... Defensively, Larkin was better - but he also didn't start his career as a catcher. I think you could make a pretty compelling case that Larkin wasn't better.
Yeah power hitter bagwell with 2 career postseason home runs. That's HOF if I have ever seen it. I mean shoe in. Dude was clutch with those 2 homers. more like hall of lame
That's your argument? We should ignore the MVP, gold gloves, silver slugger awards, all-star games? We should ignore his stats that put him in with the best 1st basemen of all time? We should narrow his entire career down to one thing? You're worse than these idiot writers.
