Hold on a second...my bet is on the Rockets not being #4 in sumpin. Like the OP says!! right....???? see...y'all are just f!cking with me now.... Despite your efforts to fool me...I still say I beat Hollinger
so says the guy who after seeing durvasa's initial table of my numbers negotiated a 50% deal with durvasa on our bet. game on If y'all are going to split it, who wants to now double my take. $10/10 on the left, and $10/10 on my right. I'm still down for $1000 by the way.
Durvasa made those tables first after reading my first proposed bet with you. But that bet never went through because of your Royce White antics of refusing to read my post and regurgatating a bunch of crap. The only discrepancy is that my original post was on end-of-season ranking of teams in each conference, rather than by record. If you want to do that as a separate deal, I'm fine with it. Same numbers, except we go by teams' record rankings rather than win totals.
Sorry, bad wording on the above. I meant to say afterwards. I have no idea if it had anything to do with my proposed bet, as the timing can be a coincidence. Anyway, that separate bet on rankings is available.
Hats off to durvasa for explaining statistics in such an understandable way. Look forward to seeing the outcome of this bet. The RW-HL predictions do seem quite reasonable in general -- apart, of course, from Portland being seeded ahead of Rockets.
ESPN currently has the Rockets 8th in their power rankings. http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings/_/year/2013/week/10 On could argue that we should be slightly higher... considering we beat the living hell out of the #7 team (Knicks)... twice.
After tonight's blowout win at Utah: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>This is all we talk about in our pre-game walk throughs. Very inspirational 4 the team RT @<a href="https://twitter.com/johnhollinger">johnhollinger</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/dmorey">dmorey</a> is gaming my Power Rankings</p>— Daryl Morey (@dmorey) <a href="https://twitter.com/dmorey/status/296112478742540288">January 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
hmmmm. In actual W / L seeding, we are 8th seed in the West. In RW / HLs seeding, we are also 8th seed in the West. And Hollinger's tweet to Morey pretty much flat out says that the Rockets are abusing his Power Rankings in accuracy. How the hell are we still 5th in the *entire* league. Occams Razor
Because we either blow teams out or get blown out. When we play well, we technically are #5-6 in the league, only Miami, OKC, Spurs, Clippers, and Denver are significantly better. We are better than our record indicates just in terms of talent and potential, but we are inconsistent which is why even the Bobcats almost beat us.
This sounds like you are making excuses for Hollinger. He still has us 5th in the entire league. What does it mean we at "technically #5-6 in the league." lols One month ago to today, my very simple RW / HLs stat said we were 8th seed in the West. Today, both real W/L seeding and my seeding have converged on 8th seed....as my stat said a month ago.
No. It's because we either blow teams out or we lose narrowly. We only have 3 real blowout losses (2 vs. OKC, 1 vs SAS) this season. Maybe one more against Minnesota depending on where you put the threshold. The rest of our losses are close games. And when we win, we often win big. That is why our point differential looks so good despite our record. I think that's why watching the Rockets lose has become so frustrating to us. Tough losses that you feel you could have won are the hardest to stomach, and nearly all of our losses are that way. Last two losses against the Heat and Nuggets? Yep, definitely fit the bill. And yes, it points to a team that struggles with close games. And yes, our inconsistency means when we do blow teams out or win, it doesn't seem to matter who we are playing against at the time. But having a team that either wins big or loses narrowly is a great place to be, especially since the team has so much room to become even better.
Ironic thing is: point differential doesn't really come close to agreeing with Hollinger, either. Hollinger PR Rockets are #3 in the West point differential Rockets are #6 in the West RW / HLs Rockets are #8 in the West Actual Current Seedings Rockets are #8 in the West fwiw...lols
Okay, so what you're saying is Hollinger Rankings is flawed (which we already know), and you don't know why since you don't think it's point differential... I'm not making excuses... I'm trying to find a possible explanation, which is wrong apparently.
Why try to figure out the flaw in a stat, when there has always been a better stat out there... throughout all history of the NBA. It's not worth the effort. The real question is: Why did ESPN popularize such a flawed Power Ranking vs much simpler ones?
