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Royce White refuses assignment to D-League (UPDATE: Rockets suspend him)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Fawkward, Dec 29, 2012.

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Do you want the Rockets to give up on Royce White?

  1. No. He's a talent that can help us win down the road.

    156 vote(s)
    21.6%
  2. Yes. He's not worth it. Cut him from the team.

    566 vote(s)
    78.4%
  1. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
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    It's sad -- I watch the video and I want him to be successful, but White is clearly not being honest regarding his mental health DO. He could be in the D-league staying in shape, working on his game, and working on his mental health in a low stress environment. That White is not taking advantage of that situation is very telling -- there is much more to this story that we are not hearing.
     
  2. daywalker02

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    A bit harsh isn't it? But sadly I can't disagree.
     
  3. daywalker02

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    I support what is good for Humanity. White has lost it completely.
     
  4. BeardSanity

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    hard to feel sorry for the guy, but i wish there was more transparency on the rockets part. what is going on? what are the accommodations that he wants that we are not willing to give? I mean the guy has serious talent and i find it hard that morey and crew aren't giving it all they got to keep this guy and put him on the court. I guess only way we will find out what is truly going on is if/when we cut ties with white.
     
  5. LikeMike

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    Royce White is a very ill person - and for that I support him to get better. Royce White is also an elite talent, so for the Rockets sake I support him.

    But he is also an entitled brat, and for that I just hope he fades away or grows up already...
     
  6. TheresTheDagger

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    What really ticks me off about this whole situation is that Royce is asking for something nobody else gets.

    I work, most of the folks on this thread and fansite work. I don't get to dictate my work situation and get special treatment because of any health situation. If I was fortunate enough to get an accommodation, that would be wonderful, but NO WAY would I expect the company to produce it.

    Bottom line....everyone's health is the resposibility of the individual. Sure everyone needs help especially with more complex issues like this.

    BUT DON'T GO DEMANDING HELP LIKE ITS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE IT EXACTLY LIKE YOU WANT IT.

    IT'S NOT.

    Talk about clueless. Sheesh.

    Either go to work or find a new employer Royce. Good luck with that.
     
  7. daywalker02

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    hmm....worth a thought... I'll fix my sarcasm meter later
    but nah.... he'd better be advised to come back at age 25+

    I can't crap on him, his game is slower than Boris Diaw Riffiod's
     
  8. pippendagimp

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    i wondered what this fool's friends must be telling him....ex-teammates, etc.......then i realized he probably doesn't have any friends, which would explain his sitting on twitter every night
     
  9. ROXTXIA

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    Uckfay isthay ackassjay.

    I wanted to give him a chance. Now I want his contract terminated. Either his disorder is worse than we imagined or he wants a free ride while taking advantage of the disorder and the Xanax crowd.

    I said in the beginning this cannot end well.
     
  10. SRR21

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    The thing is he was able to fly in college not every trip but he was able to fly. Now that he is a pro he thinks he is above having to go thru his anxiety ever. Which as a person with chronic back pain I understand wanting to not ever deal with pain but in real life I understand unless I am put out like Micheal Jackson with propofol. I will never be pain free. #UnrealisticExpectations Man I was excited about this kid during Summer League. If he would just accept his D-League assignment and get himself in a team setting I think that would be good for both sides as a starting point. From the outside looking in it just looks like a complete power struggle where White wants complete power of decisions. As a GM Morey can not and will not give in to these demands. Whats the next step? Complete suspension for the year? Court procedures to get out of contract? Contract settlement? I doubt HOU will just straight cut him. Trade his rights then that team just cuts him? Eating 3mil I don't know strange things afoot.
     
  11. Rockets R' Us

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    If his problem is clinically accurate and diagnosed as an actual disorder, then I think the title of "entitled brat" may be a bit harsh. If he has the problems he claims he has, growing up just isn't a possibility until he has the time for doctors to properly work him through his mental issues and rehabilitate him. Unfortunately, that may not work with the rigors of an NBA schedule and the quick and painful decline of a young man in an NBA lifestyle. The physical, mental and emotional stresses and the resulting anxieties from them may be too intense for him to ever conceivably play, at least in his prime. Maybe he takes a few years off, does therapy and then tries a comeback.

    What frustrates me is his ability to do well in college ball, with a relatively high profile and (what one would imagine) a similar amount of physical, mental and emotional stress. However, the ramp up in stress from going from a 35 to 50 game season (division tournaments, march madness included) to a 82-100 game season is almost double the stress. That may help explain a little if his anxiety is truly as bad as he claims it is. Hard battle to overcome in 1 offseason after 3 years of adjusting to the "stresses" of college ball.
     
  12. kent335

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    How do you copy a tweet?

    This is a classic though.

    “@Kingclayis: Can't wait for my son to tell me stories about how his high school janitor was the 16th pick @Highway_30... #BeWell friend...
     
  13. daywalker02

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    that's where people fail in the understanding department what Morey wanted to say

    Remember Twill the last guy who was elite at rebounding and very good at passing as well?

    If you don't work at all, it just won't happen. Twill just couldn't buy into the system.
     
  14. Rip Van Rocket

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    Two things I find irritating.
    1. We still don't know exactly what he wants from the Rockets as far as "protocol."

    2. After he was drafted he said he had anxiety about flying, but that it was under control and it would not be a problem. Evidently, fear of flying is just a small part of his problems.
     
  15. Rockets R' Us

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    Latest from @Jonathan_Feigen:

    Key to impasse w White is he wants "protocols" in writing, per source. Not an option, given rules of NBA CBA w players.


    http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2013/01/rockets-suspend-royce-white-one-week-after-he-refused-d-league-assignment/

    Relevant Snips:

    “The Houston Rockets have suspended Royce White effective immediately for refusing to provide services as requires by his Uniform Player Contract,” Morey said in a statement. “We will continue to work with Royce to hopefully come to a resolution.”

    NBA player contracts include services all players are required to provide, with fines or suspensions permitted for breach of the contract. Players association representatives have said they are monitoring the situation. NBA and Rockets officials have declined to comment.

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    White has said the Rockets have failed to adhere to doctors’ recommendations to provide a safe workplace for him and said it is likely that he will never play in the NBA. He said he will not play or practice for the Rockets or Vipers until the Rockets accept “protocols” for his treatment.

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    The impasse, however, is more complicated than that. According to a person with knowledge of the talks between White and the Rockets, White has refused to play or practice until the Rockets agree in writing to an addendum to his contract that he has written. That kind of addition to an NBA player contract would conflict with the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement with the players’ association.

    Though White has not publicly specified the conditions he would need to practice or play, he has indicated through his tweets that he wants players to be able to choose the doctors who would then be given the authority to determine players’ work environment and expectations. If the Rockets agreed to that in writing, it would violate the conditions of the CBA.

    The Rockets have told White and his agent, Andrew Vye, that they want to work with him on a plan that he can accept. They have maintained in conversations with White that they have worked with doctors who do not insist, as White has maintained in statements and on Twitter, that doctors should have authority to determine White’s work requirements.

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    The demand for a contract addendum, however, is similar to the issues that kept White from attending training camp. The Rockets had agreed to his request to travel on his own to as many road games and practices as possible, but in the days before the start of camp in McAllen, he wanted the agreement to be put in writing.
     
  16. danielcp0303

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    We now know that Royce White has no leg to stand on. He wants to change his contract and give doctors final say, neither of those things can happen in the NBA
     
  17. daywalker02

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    Come on, think outside of the box or what Royce said destroy the box in the beginning ;)

    The guy is too lazy to work out, if he gets that protocol, he is going to want more.

    A nice protocol to go along every half a season. Change of contract this and there if it does not suit him. Keeps the protocol updated.
     
  18. SacTown

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    Royce would never been a janitor. That would mean he actually had to work.
     
  19. topfive

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    Exactly. Royce doesn't seem to want to compromise at all on this. Whatever the doctors say -- EVERYTHING -- is exactly what the team should do. That's just not practical.
     
  20. Deckard

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    And that's an insult to a great man. Winston doesn't deserve it.
     

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