Right, but let's not confuse that the 90% chance of making the playoffs last year before our fateful fall, was probably accurate. Us being the #4 team in the league, however, will prove to be a bigger fail of this formula. Also, don't tie Morey to Hollinger's box score analytics. Hollinger is pretty good at what he does for us to show box score analytics. But Morey does not do this. Do you know what an Intern Scout is in this league. An Intern Scout is a ex-basketball player wanna be coach who sits high in the stands with a clipboard charts whatever Morey wants him to chart. What they chart is not in the boxscore. Morey's analytics are not meant for mass consumption. So let's not criticize "analytics" by criticizing Hollinger's attempt to create boxscore stats.
Well, no offence heypartner, but hollinger is a respected professional basketball analyst who specialises in stats, so he is an authority on the subject. Whereas, I don't know who you are or what you do, so it's not a very apt comparison to make, you know? Furthermore, I recognise the flaws in the formula and I said I take it all with a grain of salt, but if a formula created by respected basketball analytics professional has us ranked #4 in the league - then, yeah, it is pretty cool. It's just an opinion, dude. No disrespect.
Hollinger's power rankings are more of a fun thing. They attempt to mirror subjective rankings such as marc stein's. Generally power rnakings go by which team is currently well vs which are thebest teams. The rockets have been doing well lately so its no wonder we are high in the rankings. For a statistical ranking that tries to rate the best teams, i like jeff sagarin's in usa today. He currently has us at 8. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nba1213.htm
versus Marc Stein who has us ranked at #13?? Not to mention, Moe's ass. So yes, you recognize this ranking stat is pure bs versus much simpler ranking stats...and you still defend it????????? People...stop defending this bullsh!t...out of my mathematical ass...stat.
It seems only you are treating his PR as "end of season win count" or "most likely to win a title" thing. Rather than just a mid-season opinion of which teams are playing well and which teams are not. If you're going to pretend it's suppose to be all knowing future predictor, then yeah, it fails. As will any other power rank or playoff predictor of any kind. Don't try to make it out to be something it's not, and then get mad at it.
I'm defending my reaction to those rankings, chill out. Am I not allowed to think it's cool that a highly visible (arguably the most visible) NBA power ranking has (had) us ranked #4 in the league? Firstly, it's nice to get some recognition for how well we've been playing, and secondly, it reinforces the notion that, lately, we've been playing pretty well. Get off your high horse, dude.
that's so cute how you defend Hollinger by saying his power ranking has nothing to do with the obvious power ranking of the team. I think someone needs to 'splain to meh my reason for entering this thread. So, you admit that it fails moreso than It's so weird how a foolish stat like Wins and Losses or Road Wins vs Home losses never ranks the Rockets anywhere close to #4 Which reminds me...you do know the Texans are now ranked #4 in the league, right? I wonder if Hollinger had them ranked #4 all this time?
So, again, I ask you...you recognize Hollinger's PR stat is pure crap math, right? Am I on a "high horse" to call out a ESPN stat that is pure bs math....with proof?? Maybe Hollinger should start ranking stocks.
His power rankings drive the playoff odds, which at the end of the day is what really matters. So to understand how his rankings translate into a prediction on where the teams will end up, it's best to look at the playoff odds page. He currently has us winning 51 games, which means we go 31-17 the rest of the way. I think we should win at least half the remaining games. So if 51 is on the high end, maybe 44 is on the low end?
We are now #5 (01/06/13) after the win in Cleveland and the Raptors with a (12-21) record went up 2 spots to #12 without even playing yesterday. Yes, this ranking is a joke.
This is stupid. Tell me a single NBA power rank in history of any power rank has ever accurately(or even remotely accurately) predicted the order of finish ~40% of the way into the season? Anyway, I'm not a big fan of the whole road win/away losses thing. And I do want to place a tip-jar bet with you for that reason. Unfortunately though, Hollinger rankings can't measure up in a traditional manner due to his SOS aspect, and the huge disparity in talent between the two conferences. But if you want to do a tip jar where we compare end-of-season conference rankings between the two measures, I'd be up for that. It would work like this. The Rockets are currently ranked 5th in the west by Hollinger rankings. If they end up at 8th in the west. That's 3 points. Tally up all the teams, and the measure with the lowest points total win. Sound good?
No you're on your high horse, for b****ing that some poster thinks its cool that a highly visible power ranking has us ranked highly. Are you that inclined to make sure I bow down to your opinion and suddenly think it's uncool? Come on, man. I'm a positive guy and I'm just being positive, is it really necessary for you to **** all over that? Like I said, I take it with a grain of salt, but it's still nice. Is that so wrong?
44 is not the low end, it is the prediction. Well, I'll say 45,,, out of Moe's ass. The low end is below that. 51? lols, the last time we won 50 games was when we had Yao, TMac and Carl Herrera was still Van Gundier.
Yeah, but in the end it's still just an educated guess. Similar to someone saying, "I think the Nuggets will be a sure-fire playoff team. They have a good record despite playing a hard schedule with mostly away games." Sure, Denver may not make it, but that doesn't mean the guess itself is illogical. And if you make this same guess with every single team, there are bound to be mistakes. As for where I think the Rockets end up at, I still think that the fast pace and stamina issues will show up as the season goes on. And there's always the possibility of Morey trolling at the deadline and pull another Brooks/Battier. But assuming our rotation players can keep up the pace, and we don't break apart the team at the deadline, I think we can achieve 47-50 wins. I do put a lot of stock into blowing teams away. And I feel the chemistry will only get better, and mistakes will get less as the season goes on.
So for all the talk of your whole home loss road win thing, and your utter disdain of Hollinger, you won't make a tip jar bet for what should be easy win for you? Glad you're so confident.
