[Graphic Footage] Cops Kill Man Cold Blooded Or Was It Justified?

If the cop would have shot the suspect 6 times instead of 12, I think people would not criticize him as much. 12 shots "feels" like too much. Especially when the last shot comes in the middle of the cop radioing in "shots fired, shots fired". Suspect was already down at 5th or 6th shot.

In my opinion, the cop was correct in shooting the suspect. It just seems like 12 shots were excessive. I'm not sure whether he just kept shooting because he was gripped with fear of injury or death to himself or if it was because he was trigger happy. I don't buy the whole "I'm going to unload the entire clip because that's what training taught me". Like he would have continued shooting if it was an extended clip. That is dangerous and irresponsible, especially for a cop.

 

Last Question: Once you have paid your debt to society . . .. are you allowed to be human again . . .or once a criminal always a criminal. . . there is NO WAY to repay your debt to society?

Rocket River
Evidently there seems to be .. .. you make a mistake . .you do your time . .. you branded for life and lose a significant portion of your rights and privleges.

 

What rights and privileges are lost after a criminal has done their time? Once they have completed their sentence, most states allow them to vote without jumping through hoops. It is more difficult to legally obtain a gun.

In life, one's history and the choices they make will oftentimes follow them forever. If you ran a business and two equally qualified candidates based on what the job requires, would you hire the guy with a long rap sheet (for example, the person in this story) or would you hire the guy with no rap sheet?

 

Wow. Finally got around to watching the video in the OP. And I am absolutely speechless.

The way they vigilantly stood with guns drawn at a dead or dying man, as if he constituted some kind of threat, while not even attempting to administer any kind of first aid.. even handcuffing him. I'm just lost for words.

Even though I've been screwed by the police before, I typically give them the benefit of the doubt. But this video really angers me.

 

I imagine the last thing a cop wants to see is someone going back to his truck after being told to stop. Coppers can be all gun trained but when the adrenaline is pumping, you are going to fire multiple shots. The famous 1986 Miami shoot out that resulted in 4 FBI deaths could have been prevented if the first agent would have kept firing instead of lowering his 9mm handgun after only one shot of hitting the bad guy.

 

You seriously expect the police to rush to administer aid immediately after shooting someone? First of all, they're not paramedics. Secondly, you act as cautiously as possible for the safety of yourself and others. This was a violent and armed criminal, I'm not going to start giving him "aid" until he's cuffed and in a position where he cannot possibly harm anyone else. It's one thing to criticize the number of shots fired, but this is just naive.

 

Violent and armed criminal? History of violence? Yes. Criminal? Certainly. Armed? Um... no.

Pretty naive to think that anyone shot 11 times with a large proportion of their blood draining out of their body and absolutely no motion on the ground constitutes any kind of threat at all. Certainly none worth slapping handcuffs on.

 

Did you read the forensic report? He was armed with a knife (4 inch blade) when shot.

 

No, the suspect was not armed. A 4 inch knife was found in the truck's bed. At no time did the suspect attempt to reach into the bed of the pickup truck.

How can you say he was armed?

 

If you read the forensic analysis of the video, you will see where it determines he was armed at the time of the shooting.

 

Who made those reports?

Honestly this is why we need more CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT of police officers.


Rocket River

 

An independent forensics lab. Have you read the report? It is very detailed and shows the specificity of the case. In addition, there is a witness statement from the driver of the car that corroborates the knife.

 

RR, not sure if you have seen post 121 and 129.

 

I think this is an issue that should be looked at regarding police training. Bullets don't always just stop in someone's body and they don't always hit the target. By continuing to fire the cop is putting the safety of others at risk. There is clearly a fine line regarding the officer protecting himself by shooting a suspect versus where it becomes excessive to the point of the cop being the threat to public safety.

 

Those are some very important questions.

As I said before from the video I personally don't see enough to say that this was an unjustified shooting. At this point I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the cop. This situation does seem poorly handled.

 

Because we read the report and watched the video that confirms what is in the report.

He was armed. End of story.

As for cuffing, standard procedure in part of securing the scene.

 

Damn... did I just witness a real death on youtube??

 

If you run from the cops and reach for something you'll get shot. Nothing earth shattering here.

 

YEa . . . The picture makes the YEtti look clear
and the report if from the D.A. - A group that has a vested interest in keeping
the police happy.

they are basically on the same team

Rocket River

 

What do you base this on?