[Graphic Footage] Cops Kill Man Cold Blooded Or Was It Justified?

I hardly ever post in the D&D but I just had to post in this thread. BEAT LA is either a troll or 12 years old.

My dad was a police officer for just about over 10 years so he has a good amount of experience and knowledge in the field. After seeing this video I decided to call him up and see what he thought about it.

He said the officer was justified with shooting the man for a variety of reasons. The officer clearly tells the man multiple times not to move and to put his hands up. The man doesn't comply and makes a quick movement towards the truck and the officer shoots. When an officer tells you multiple times do something, you do it (if you're not stupid). This could have all been avoided if the suspect would have came out of the truck slowly and with his hands up. He obviously didn't, and he was shot.

As for all this crap about shots fired and alternative weapons for police officers, give me a break! If a guy is coming at you all drugged up with a gun, what are you gonna do? Pull out your "alternative weapon"? Yeah right, okay have fun with that. Pull out your squirt gun on a guy coming at you, that will do the trick.

When I asked my dad as to what others said about aiming for the legs or something less lethal, he laughed. He said they are trained to defend their life and protect others around them. He also said if you are using a gun you better be prepared to kill. You don't shoot for the legs because its a harder target and it might not slow the attacker down. Is it the aim for police officers to kill? No. It's their aim for attackers to be subdued. And if it comes down to a life or death situation, you defend your life.

 

Some of you guys are so deluded in thinking this is justified. The only possible reason has to be that the cop knew who he was and his personal background.

Besides that it seems so some of you are saying the cop shot to kill, if that is the case why not just put one in the head, I mean, he is only like 3 feet away. Also, if you feel your life is legitimately threatened and you are near point blank range to the person you don't squeeze off an entire clip, you shoot the guy in the head and end it there.

 

And, on average, officers shoot 4+ innocent people every day too - correct? Or did you make that number up?

 

You DID read htown's assessment on shooting for the legs in that it's much harder, right? Same applies for the head. Training always dictates that you aim for center of mass, because it's the easiest thing to hit and can take down the target reliably.

Besides, like I conceded, my statement was incorrect. It's more "Shoot to subdue, with death just being an incredibly likely result of that because cop's life>>criminal's life."

Are you even reading anyone else? Because I already explained that there's not a major difference between shooting 14 times and 1 time, and Donny already explained the whole cop situation with the ambulance. They went there to secure the situation, and they are going to do that before they call an ambulance in order to make sure everything is safe. That should take priority over saving some criminal's life, to make sure no innocents could be in danger.

 

I'm sorry, but that is BS. Just because someone doesn't do what a cop tells him to do doesn't give the cop the right to shoot said person.
I admit that in this case it is unfortunate that the guy reached for something in his car, but at the same time, cops are trained to do the right thing in situations like these. I think that if you can't assess the danger of a situation properly and act accordingly, you shouldn't be a cop.

 

Worthless member of society. Might be harsh, but society is a little better with him off the streets.
Of course, I don't feel that way about all criminals but this guys rap sheet is just bad.

 

If "not doing what a cop tells him" entails quick, sudden movements, towards the officer, some of which involve reaching for something beyond the officer's field of vision (and "him" is a violent felon), then yeah... it gives him the right to shoot said person.

 

I don't see where that guy moved towards the officer. In fact, he had is back turned to the cop. Also, I didn't specifically mean that incident; I said that it was unfortunate that the guy reached into his car. It was a reply to the comment htownrox1 made.
I just think that in this situation the cop was too quick to fire his gun. After all, he shot an unarmed man. Like I said before, I think a police officer has to be able to assess the danger of the situation and the threat a person might pose properly, and in this case, he did not. That is my opinion after having watched the video several times.

 

After seeing video, I thought the cop was in the wrong. After checking the facts, I can see the cop's point of view. Maybe he was not scared for his own life, but for the female in the truck. The suspect had the police called on him earlier in the day for domestic violence and had a history of violence and abuse. They found methamphetamines in his system. The cop was quick to react, but the suspect could have killed the female in the truck in a split second with a knife. No one has ever stated anything regarding this in the thread.

 

Exactly.

 

:35 - Officer tells him to put his hands up
:36 - Officer tells him to put his hands up
:37 - Officer tells him not to move
:38 - Officer tells him not to move
:39 - Officer tells him not to move or he will shoot him
:40 - Officer now has a gun drawn and is standing next to the vehicle
:42 - Suspect leaves vehicle
:43 - Suspect reaches back into vehicle
:44 - Officer shoots suspect

I keep seeing conflicting reports about the weapon. But even assuming there was no weapon, the actions of the suspect coupled with the known fact this was a man with a history of violent crimes also considered armed and dangerous (and violating parole, apparently?) justified the use of deadly force. It's an unfortunate situation, but I find little fault in the officer's actions.

 

^^THIS^^

If the officer waited 2 seconds after 0:43 and the suspect in fact did have a gun..the officer would be dead. If I'm the officer, I'm not taking that chance with my life or the life of the person in the truck and anyone else in the vicinity.

Also, anyone saying the officer should use less bullets or shoot him in the leg..go back and read this thread again - its all been covered as to why you shoot at the center of the body. Also, if you miss with a one-shot taser and the guy has a knife or gun..your dead - thats why tasers are no good in these type of scenerios.

 

Replace "kill" with "stop the lethal threat presented by" (& similarly not "empty the clip"), but yeah you're right it's ridiculous to aim for the legs or something, intending to wound a certain part of the body.

 

...not sure if serious?

And if this happened 3 weeks ago why does the video say June 2011?

 

...seriously...are you kidding me?

 

I agree, I watched with no sound, but I can clearly see the officer yelling to the man in the truck. The man looks like he slides from the driver's side to the passenger side, then he opens the door and turns back into the car, I thought he was grabbing something too.

Dude is a dumbass for moving. If a cop has a gun pulled on me, the LAST thing I am doing is making any sudden movements.

And again...is this guy serious about guns should only be used to kill? If you have the sense and steadiness to aim to disable someone rather than kill them, why wouldn't you? If someone attacked me to the point I feared for my life, and I happened to have a gun (which I never would), I would shoot for their legs, and then keep firing if they kept coming, but you don't HAVE TO shoot to kill. Just because guns are dangerous, and they are not toys, does not mean they are meant to kill every time they are fired. That is the silliest thing I have ever heard. People have intentions, objects do not.

 

at around 0:42 and 0:44, the suspect already came out with a weapon (might have to watch it in full screen to see it) . His left hand was holding the door while his right hand on top of the roof holding the knife. It does not appear that he was gunned down because he was reaching for something - suspect already had a weapon.

 

Don't get me wrong here but the cop became the judge jury and executioner last time i checked we have a system for that.