[Graphic Footage] Cops Kill Man Cold Blooded Or Was It Justified?

Link to this knockout gun?

 

The only thing that explains is why the jury system is stupid.

 

It looked liked like he was reaching into his car. I could see how the officer might think that he was reaching for a weapon.

It does seem excessive but I don't know why the police were called in or who called them.

 

Oh please. The guy literally scrambled out of the car so quickly he got his FOOT caught in the seatbelt. "Not trying to escape" my arse.

 

[rquoter]Attorneys representing the family of Ernest Duenez Jr. on Wednesday released dash cam video of a fatal police shooting, in which the 34-year-old man was shot to death by police.

Police in Manteca, California had attempted to arrest Duenez last year for violating his parole. Duenez, who was considered armed and dangerous, was shot eleven times after exiting a pick-up truck that had pulled up to his home. Officer John Moody said Duenez advanced towards him armed with a knife, despite orders not to move.

Oakland civil rights attorney John Burris, who represented the family of Oscar Grant in another high-profile police shooting case, claims that Duenez was unarmed and had caught his foot in a seatbeat shortly before being shot. The dash cam video appears to confirm that Duenez was tangled in his seatbeat, but whether he was armed remains unclear.

“We have communicated to the Department of Justice that this man [Officer John Moody] should be prosecuted for murder,” Burris said.

“From our point of view this officer has been fully protected by numerous law enforcement communities. The Police Department ratified this conduct on the very first day as justifiable and the District Attorney’s office has come back as well and justified this conduct and retained an expert that raises real questions about his integrity and his independence in making certain assumptions.”

The dash cam video was released after the San Joaquin County District Attorney’s Office concluded that Moody was legally justified in using lethal force (PDF).

Duenez had previously been convicted of burglary, statutory rape, possession of controlled substances, felony evading arrest, vehicle theft, possession of a stolen vehicle, assault with a deadly weapon and gang membership.[/rquoter]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/13/attorneys-release-video-of-fatal-california-police-shooting/

 

Did you quote the wrong person or are you reproaching me for not wanting to get involved in an armchair quarterback discussion on cop shootings again? I didn't disagree with you about whether the guy should have been shot. I only came in because I wanted to comment on the suspect wisdom of shooting someone in the leg.

 

Thanks for posting that. If you're a wanted felon and have a lengthy rap sheet filled with violent crimes, you're not going to get a lot of benefits of the doubt.

 

What is your alternative suggestion?

Rocket River

 

No, sir... I don't think you're making a case for people owning guns. In this case, the police are AUTHORITY FIGURES. Please listen to AUTHORITY FIGURES. Then you can explain whatever you want that is bothering you about it. Certainly don't try to run away from an officer of the law.

Now, against a lunatic on clutchfans.net who thinks he's right... maybe a different case...

 

What's stupid about it? If it wasn't the juror playing arbitor of facts, the judge or the regulator or the police chief would be asking himself the same questions. What was his state of mind when he pulled the trigger? Was he afraid? If so, was his fear justified? If not, why did he want to kill that guy? Was excessive force used? The bullet count is going to play in the argument regardless of who has to make the call.

 

As used by...

Spoiler

 

One thing that I have heard is that you should always aim for the center of mass as it is difficult to hit the limbs.

 

You honestly think that if guns are banned, that NO ONE will have a gun?

Do you think a taser is 100% reliable in all cases to "knock out" a suspected felon? Especially from a distance?

 

Really?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vid...d-racism-shooting-aboriginal-joyridders-video

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-23/shooting-on-inner-sydney-street3a-reports/4388416

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ailed-inspection/story-fn3dxiwe-1226529737130

 

The officer was protecting his own life in the course of executing his orders. Whether that's right or wrong is a whole other topic.

The real sham to me is that if they knew his record and they knew THEY were going to pull a gun on him, why not arrange for the paramedics sooner?

Also, does anyone seriously believe that reliable technology if incapacitating a human for law enforcement purposes can not exist today? Do you realize what kind of weapons are in use today? IMO it must be a cost consideration, which is disgusting in itself.

 

You mean a cop's job...may require them not to assume the best about people and treat gestures differently from a civilian? Fascinating. I look forward to your next conclusion that rain makes you wet.

If it was multiple clips or something like that, I could see an argument along those lines, because the cop has the opportunity to stop and reassess the situation as he reloaded. But with a single clip? Not really. I guess I might concede that maybe it will be a small factor, but that's about it. After all, if Rocket River was saying was true, there ought to be a scenario where it was deemed that using a single clip instead of a single bullet was viewed as excessive by the authorities. I personally haven't seen such a thing.

How could that possibly be wrong?