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Which players style of play does Lin remind you of?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hikanoo49, Dec 31, 2012.

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  1. cyclorider

    cyclorider Member

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    Jeremy is like Goran Dragic in every way, except Jeremy has a higher basketball IQ. For their record, Dragic was the player Jeremy compared himself to .... and he's right.

    Their statistics and productivity are also virtually identical and reveal them to be mirror images of each other on a basketball court.

    Fans may prefer the comparison be to a player who isn't an ex-Rocket, but Dragic is still the best comparison by far in terms of size (Jeremy is 6'4" in shoes), skills, statistics and productivity. The question is whether Jeremy's slightly higher basketball IQ and leadership ability will elevate him beyond Dragic in the months and years to come...
     
  2. Haymitch

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    Rajon Rando averages 13 ppg. Does that count? Either way, your comparison of Lin to all time greats is still absurd at best, and I think you know this.
     
  3. mike_lu

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    Clutch .. You can't be serious with that comp.

    When did Rafer actually get to the rim like Lin? I mean get to the rim, not get near it and put up floaters. And does Rafer have much of a mid-range game like Lin, or get to the FT line like Lin did (in NY), or have a first step like Lin (or any step that was considered quick).

    On the other hand ...

    Rafer is a much better dribbler/ball-handler than Lin, had more flash (which he had to tone down for the pro game), and he was better than Lin in terms of TOs. But he wasn't much of a playmaker nor does he elevate the game of his teammates.

    Most of all, Rafer's not a game-changer
     
  4. The_Real_McCoy

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    But it took Goran 6 years to reach his current level of play
     
  5. Haymitch

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    Why so sensitive? I'm not a "LOH" - there is no such thing as a LOH. I'm a Rockets fan. When I joined the site in 2005 I didn't do it because I knew someday Jeremy Lin would be a Rocket and I wanted to be here to tell everyone how much I hate him.

    In fact, I don't hate Jeremy Lin. I like him. I like that we signed him. I hope he continues to improve and plays in Houston for many years. Hell, I just recently bought my girlfriend a Jeremy Lin t-shirt, which she will probably never wear because she doesn't really care about the NBA. Why would I do that if I hated him?

    I was just pointing out that comparing Lin to an all time great was ridiculous. And it is. That does not mean I hate Jeremy Lin. It simply means that he's not one of the best basketball players of all time. And for saying this, you label me a hater. Yes, clearly, I am the one who is off-base.
     
  6. glacier921

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    I always thought you guys counted wins. Boston is not winning. Rockets are scoring 120 points per game in the last 5-6, coincidentally, the Lin is the main ball handler. You guys LOVE talking about ppg. Here is a tidbit, Melo scored 45 points today and lost. Kobe scored 36 today and lost. Rondo is averaging 13 APG, according to you, and they're losing. Something is wrong here. If Lin sits for a rest, the other team comes back, even though Harden is still on the court. There is obviously something that is missing with the stat sheet.
     
  7. Haymitch

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    Lin being the PG on the Rockets while they average 120 points per game during a 5 game stretch in December makes him comparable to all-time greats. OK, fine. Stated that way, I see you were right all along.
     
  8. glacier921

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    No, not sensitive. It's just that when you put solid evidence, people interpret that as sensitive. As I said, how does Rockets get 120 points the last few games when Lin was running the show? Harden is an efficient scorer. So is Melo and Kobe. Melo scored 45 today, and loses, Kobe scores 36 today, and they lose. Lin scores 14 points, and they call him Rafer Alston. I would like to hear from you guys, would replacing Lin with a 14 point guard will produce the same 120 point games?
     
  9. The_Real_McCoy

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    No, it's not sacrilegious to compare to current player to a great because we are looking as potential. For example, I think Bradley Beal plays a lot like Dwade. I think Shabazz Muhammad is a lot like Paul Pierce. If I said 5 years ago that Rajon Rondo looks like he could someday be one of the best, everybody would've thought I'd be crazy
     
  10. TEXNIFICENT

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    SOOOO........ Lin for NBA MVP?
     
  11. RoxD

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    People are comparing Jeremy Lin to Rafer Alston, and find that they are comparable in many ways. Yes, I agree on this. Further study on the stats lines reveals that Jeremy Lin is a rich man's Rafer Alston. There are two points to support this:

    1. Jeremy Lin is a much more efficient player than Rafer Alston. Their career stats look comparable on a per game basis (See also EFF). Yet Rafer Alston's playing time per game is considerably longer than Jeremy Lin's (+20% longer). Hence Jeremy Lin is much more efficient than Alston (+30% higher in EFF48M).

    2. Jeremy Lin develops much faster than Rafer Alston. Jeremy Lin this season (3rd year in NBA) is better than Rafer Alston in his 5th year in NBA. (The stats data can be found easily. I won't list them here)
    <table border="0"> <tr><td colspan="13" align="center" >Career Stats of Rafer Alston and Jeremy Lin</td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#0069B9";font style="color:#ffffff;"><th>Player <font style="color:#0069B9;">11111</fond></th><th>GP<font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond></th><th>MIN<font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond></th><th>FG%<font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond> </th><th>3P%<font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond></th><th>FT%<font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond></th><th>REB<font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond></th><th>AST<font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond></th><th>TO <font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond></th><th>STL<font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond></th><th>BLK<font style="color:#0069B9;">1</fond></th><th>PTS <font style="color:#0069B9;">11</fond></th><th>EFF</th><th>EFF48M</th></tr>
    <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">Rafer Alston</td><td align="left">671</td><td align="left">28.9</td><td align="left">38%</td><td align="left">35%</td><td align="left">73%</td><td align="left">2.8</td><td align="left">4.8</td><td align="left">1.8</td><td align="left">1.2</td><td align="left">0.2</td><td align="left">10.1</td><td align="right">10.94</td><td align="right">18.17</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"><td align="left">Jeremy Lin</td><td align="left">95</td><td align="left">23.6</td><td align="left">44%</td><td align="left">29%</td><td align="left">80%</td><td align="left">2.7</td><td align="left">4.8</td><td align="left">2.5</td><td align="left">1.5</td><td align="left">0.3</td><td align="left">10.1</td><td align="left">11.83</td><td align="right">24.06</td></tr></table>
     
  12. glacier921

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    If they keep blowing up teams like Memphis w/ our high octane powered offense, yes. But let's be real, people's eyes are fixated on ppg. Kobe, Melo, Harden. Don't get me wrong, I like Harden. But our high powered offense isn't jump started because of Harden. I mean, Melo and Kobe has a higher ppg than Harden, but do the Knicks and Lakers score as much as us?
     
  13. TEXNIFICENT

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    Wow. ;)
     
  14. Haymitch

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    I know. I know.
     
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    I think you guys are speechless. Just tell me, would the Rockets be just as good with a player with Lin's EXACT stat lines? Yes or no? No other explanation is needed unless you want to.
     
  16. raskol

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    To answer your question, yes, it is ridiculous to state that Lin is as great as all time greats.
     
  17. Haymitch

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    Yes.
    &nbsp; &nbsp;
     
  18. glacier921

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    Alright. I C.
     
  19. JJ23

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    He actually reminds me of an undrafted kid that came out of Harvard and who lit it up when he was given the opportunity.
     
  20. MT1417

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    I'm sorry but some guys are clearly too sensitive and overreacting to the comparisons of Lin to Rafer. Not many of us have seen enough of Lin with the Rockets, we probably haven't watch all his games in NY or over-scrutinize his games too much to accurately pinpoint who's most similar to him. It's not unfair to say that we'll need to see a lot more of him.

    If Lin fans think that he's underrated by many Rocket fans, isn't that great? He can exceed expectations if he ends up as good as advertised. Beats being overrated and not living up to expectations. I'm glad he's playing better now but honestly he hasn't been consistent enough to be determined a style or be compared to other great players.

    For the record, I don't think he's similar to Rafer in style. I'm not sure who is he most similar to because there are still so many questions in my mind. As a player, he has the potential to be so much better but whether he lives up to the potential, that's a different story waiting to unfold.
     

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