No, this is my first and only account on CF -- thus, the "HadToDoIt" part. I don't know if you are thinking of a specific play, but off a step up screen, you don't really have a 3 ball opportunity often and mostly it is a draw 2 and kick scenario. Most of the time, step ups come when a defense is trying to high side the drag screen, or when you screen/re-screen for the drag. That being said, coming off the step up with anything other than an aggressive intention to score or to find the open man is just reluctance on the player's part. I know of no coach who says "take a step up screen and just wait at the free throw line extended for a while to see what you have".
This is incorrect. Once again the discussion isn't about him not getting playing time. Obviously I am aware that he is averaging ridiculous minutes, he will be the starter for the entire season & he is not in the dog house at all. This isn't about one singular game, or one singular player just an overriding observation that I have seen over 20+ games involving multiple players. This is just my opinion & clearly it is a highly controversial one LOL. I am not hating on McHale, blasting him calling him terrible or complaining about him either. I don't know how many times a person has to stress that they do not hate the head coach without people assuming that I am suffering from confirmation bias or that I think the man is terrible.
I would bet that if you asked any Rocket player if they would rather be sitting on the bench watching a win, or playing in a loss, everyone of them would pick the win. These players and coaches want and need to win. Winning makes a 1-9 night bearable. Better than a 9-12 night losing. That is a team. Egos are by definition of lesser importance than the team.
Ridiculous. I heard what Parsons was mumbling about on the bench. "Damn you coach McFail, DEVELOP ME!!!111"
These two statements you made contradict each other, so it looks like you are just trying to place blame on McHale in any way you possibly can. Out of one side of your mouth you say McHale should keep a player in the game if he is "feeling it" like Delfino was last night, and out of the other side of your mouth you say a player that is performing poorly should be allowed to stay in the game. Wow, there is no way McHale can please you. If he takes Delfino out you would criticize McHale for taking out a player that is Hot, if he leaves Delfino in then McHale is not allowing Parsons to play through his mistakes. Come on, it looks like you just don't like McHale, and so you are going to criticize him for what ever move he makes. Please stop hating on someone that has this team playing well.
Again, I do not hate Kevin McHale. Listen, my overriding point in both of those posts is to play the young guys. If Lin & Asik are feeling it let them keep playing don't sub them out with 2 minutes left in the quarter. I would rather not see Douglas enter or Cole enter in there place when they are rolling. At the same time if Parsons/Greg are making mistakes let them learn through it as opposed to Carlos Delfino/Cole Aldrich. I know what I have said in the past & what is the overriding preference in the two posts you found.... cater to the guys that are clearly in the long term plans of the rockets. Unless people feel that Carlos, Douglas & Aldrich will be Rockets past this season. I am pretty sure I also said that it isn't about one player, one game but an overriding theme that has been evident all season involving multiple players over multiple games. That is all. Once again I do not hate McHale.
let me clarify as I haven't used these terms in a long time. I am talking about the high ball screen where the screener is facing the sideline and is in the middle at the top of the key. Not when his back is facing the baseline. my understanding is that a drag screen is a screen in transition. So I am not sure how that works out in a half-court offense when all your guys are already down the court.
When a team is in the playoff hunt, winning is priority #1. Parsons isn't exactly lacking in minutes. He'll have plenty of opportunity to learn on the job as the Rockets strives to win as many games as they can.
And this is a very fair point which I agreed with when raskol brought it up in another thread & does change my perspective on things (see below). Playoff experience/ olympic experience are the two best ways to really learn how to elevate your game. Since people are proficient at hunting down posts where I supposedly contradict myself, I will copy & paste a post where I admitted to a change of perspective.
Parsons and Greg Smith were plucked out of the trash heap by Morey, and then developed and nurtured and entrusted by the coaching staff. If it were up to the fans like you, Morris or Budinger would have started last year. If it were up to the fans like you, DMo or Terrence Jones, or god forbid Royce White would be getting all of Greg Smith's minutes instead of earning it themselves. Those two guys are only "clearly in the long term plans" because the coaching staff has done a fan freakin' tastic job of identifying them and developing them. Thank goodness for this coaching staff and the great job they have done at producing players clearly in our long term plans, instead of listening to clueless fans who have never developed a single NBA player in their lives or have any idea how to.
It's a similar ball screen called the "pro screen". Make the wing player go through and get the center/pf on the other side of the midline to set the screen.
when lin had a terrible state in the pre-season...there was a ''jeremy lin is a joke ''thread on this board and people think nothing wrong with that...anyway,is that means all the rockets fans hate lin? people think 2012ers post here are nonsense...no matter what they said. actually,they posted here when the team got LOSE. did they just talk about lin? they tried to talk about the team...but you still think they all hate coach because of lin...Come on,please do not associate 2012ers with your own personal opinion.
Sorting through that was like a jigsaw puzzle, but yeah, I don't remember anyone saying anything to me -- a fellow 2012'er -- about any of that. I think if you declare things on an interwebz forum that are negative about someone in a thread calling for their job, it would be a safe assumption that you do not approve of their performance. Call me nutty.
A drag screen is a screen set by a person coming from the top of the key. It is usually designed to have the ball handler turn the corner around the slot and have the lane to drive. A lot of teams "high side" that screen (a defensive scheme call) by jumping up the sideline and forcing the ball to go baseline. At this point, the screener will adjust his position to make it more of a "step up" screen by being parallel to the baseline and setting a screen on the ball handler's guy, leaving the guard and the (usually a big) screener's defender in a one-on-one situation until the ball handler's defender can work his way back to his man. These things are easier to "show", but I hope that you get the gist. When you have a step up screen like I described, the guard is going baseline with the screener's defender being the only thing stopping him from going to the cup. That is why you always come off the step up aggressive (as long as the screen isn't just god awful), because you know that you have a situation where the defense is trying to scramble to get back square on their men. Many times what happens is both defenders trail the ball and the best pass is either a swing to the screener (on a pop) or a skip to the weak side corner (which we almost always fill).
Ok that makes sense, but it seems you are talking about the screens being set near the side lines. What I am talking about is the screens Lin comes off of at the top of the key. What's going on there. Why is it that he seems to get trapped or just no where to go? Is that a lack of aggression?
I have no idea what you are talking about. I've never said anything about a "2012er". I've never said "Jeremy Lin is a joke". I've never said all 2012ers hate the coach. I was responding to one poster and one poster only that made confusing and contradictory posts in this thread. Oh, and I went took a look at that "Jeremy Lin is a Joke" thread you are talking about. I made one post in that thread shortly after it was created. And this is my quote. That's right, I said something nice about Jeremy Lin. I was telling people to not give up on someone so quickly. You see, I like Jeremy Lin, I am a fan of Jeremy Lin and the entire Rocket team. I do not lump all 2012ers together, but if I see someone make a hateful post I might just ask them to stop hating. I think you owe me an apology.
Not sure how you define iso action, but the Rockets do iso Harden every now then. Did it against the Knicks when they had nobody to protect the rim, nor guard Harden on the perimeter. Sampson coached that game, though. Also still run some Harden isos off flat cut action every now and then. Harden obviously at times goes iso off early offense or whatever half-court offense they may run, too. Don't see any problem with it though. From everything I see this team is quite well coached.
There is no "flat cut action". I think what you're talking about is loop action. What people confuse with the term "action" is that it refers to a play, not a singular event within a play. It's not a high screen and roll action. It's a high screen and roll. A flat cut initiates our loop action, but the play has variations and I've seen us run staggered screens and UCLA cuts/screens off it all the time. Generally, when a play ends up in an iso, it's just because that's how the play (perhaps loop or elbow action) ends up. Defenses blow up wide pin downs and the subsequent mid screen and roll all the time off our floppy action, and just because of the time on the clock, who has the ball (usually Harden), and the court spacing it turns in to an isolation play. The thing is that when Harden goes for the iso early in the set, it is his call on the court and you can see him wave people off and direct traffic. It's not a call from the bench. That's all I am trying to impart -- we don't have a set play call for isolation offense. We run it at the end of quarters like every other team, but even then I'm not a big fan of it, and would prefer more ball/body movement.
Well the problem we have right now is that the other team is "sliding" the high screen with Jeremy. This means the man guarding the ball stays attached to his man (Jeremy) up until the point of the screen, and then slides behind the screen. The man guarding the screener backs up off his guy a couple of steps (giving the ball defender room to "slide" behind) and flattens out to provide a barrier to prevent penetration. The big thing is that the ball defender takes a good angle behind the screen so that he can prevent 1-on-1 penetration with the big. When the defender doesn't take a good angle, Jeremy exploits it just about every time with a drive. A lot of teams just re-screen on that coverage, but for us it doesn't matter much because Jeremy isn't fully confident in shooting that shot all game long and instead defers by kicking it out to the wing. He did a great job against the Spurs -- when he put up 38 -- of just stepping back and taking a rhythm jumper. We just need to get Jeremy a bit more confidence in shooting the 3 and I don't see why that won't happen for him this year. If he knocks down a couple, the other team will likely have the big come up and hedge the screen while his defender takes an angle behind or fights over and more stuff will open up. The NBA is a game of cat and mouse. Other teams will continue to do the same thing until you prove you can beat it. Notice how teams are now trapping James on screens. They are trying to figure out a way to beat him with a defensive scheme. The important thing for me is that Jeremy is only going to get more experience and get better at going against the scheme teams have set up for him right now, and when the next adjustment comes, I'm sure the coaching staff will put him in a position to succeed again.
So basically here we're in agreement. The thing is they run this screen *a lot* and a lot of times Jlin just kicks it back out to the wing. It just eats time off the clock. Other times you do see him try to attack but get hit with both defenders making a wall and while the big rolls he can't get the ball over. Why doesn't the wing come out to help take a pass to the weak side and then get the passing angle to the big? Anyway, your knowledge of these X's & O's goes far far beyond what I know. I can only see that Lin gets stuck quite a bit probably because his 3 point jump shot....not sure if it's confidence or that he's just not a great 3 point shooter at this point...still, he has enough quickness that he should be able to do more I'd think in that situation.
