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Can anyone defend the "defense of marriage"?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Northside Storm, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    but they do have equal rights. Any man can marry a woman (of age, not your family, etc), and vice versa. that's equality

    PWN3D
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    Great post

    you just put Batman Jones in his place
     
  3. Northside Storm

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    "If it's okay, do it" sounds a lot like the concept of permissiveness.

    same premise if you want it with the sexual or non-sexual parts.
     
  4. Northside Storm

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    texxx, when the Supreme Court rules on this, how many issues will you be on the wrong side of history on?

    here's to hoping your grandchildren (if you have any) don't think of you as Archie Bunker.
     
  5. QdoubleA

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    But you don't believe in the equality of gay individuals, and most of the country is against you, your views are of a dying breed. How does that make you feel?
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    So neither Northside nor QdoubleA can refute the point that all have equal rights.

    nuff said
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    I'm so glad the internet exists to enshrine the embarrassingly stupid thoughts of our backwards, intolerant, prejudiced friends forever.
     
  8. Northside Storm

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    Numerous federal appeals courts have already refuted the point.

    Soon, the Supreme Court will too, and it will become the land of the law.

    What's the point of even arguing with you on your absurdist point? I'd have to explain the significance of the law failing under rational basis review, and the numerous constitutional reasons why it is destined to fail, which frankly isn't worth the time if you're going to display such a base level of argumentation.

    I award you one Andy Dwyer.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6fC8H7eIfxI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I do urge you to read the briefing if you want to see the legal and logical reasons for why DOMA and laws like it are destined to fail.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    They've refuted that any man can marry a woman (of age, not your family, etc), and vice versa? Care to provide a linky-link?
     
  10. Northside Storm

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    hehe.

    onto more matters of substance---

    Meet the super-team of conservatives and liberals that will dent Prop 8.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...rivals-challenge-prop-8-in-federal-court.html

    http://articles.washingtonpost.com/...5449455_1_olson-legal-challenge-supreme-court

    ohh. well, not like the Bush presidency was much to celebrate anyways, I suppose.
     
  11. Northside Storm

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    They've refuted that a man or woman has to be restricted to those categories through government compulsion that serves no rational state interests.

    In case this evades you, simply put, your point is completely tangential to the larger discussion around you. (not that it had any logical merit in the first place---see my edits).
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    You're dancing and have not disproven my point that they do in fact have equal rights today.

    You're arguing that they should be able to marry whoever or whatever they want according to their sexual preference. That's what so many take issue with, and rightfully so.
     
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    Right. They have equal rights as another group if they choose to become that other group. Impeccable logic (why, they can't be uneven in rights if they can merely gain rights by "being" another race, gender, or sexual orientation.). In fact, by this logic, nobody anywhere is unequal. They just don't choose to be white, heterosexual, men, when they clearly can nowadays. (sexual reassignment surgery works wonders these days).

    The more you keep on arguing this point the more I will post Parks and Rec clips that express my feelings about your point.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Hyc1aMtnHJo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    In the meanwhile, it would be handy to actually read the briefs about the DOMA issue before so you actually know the issue at hand. That's not even the argument at all here, and I invite you to read the actual question being presented in the brief. The boat you're trying to argue has sailed a hell of a long time ago, and I challenge you to bring up one rational reason why it is "rightfully" so.
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    Interesting, this comes from the same side that calls itself the "moral majority", that takes claim for "family values" and argues that gay marriage will lead to the weakening of family and marriage. Wow, calling out someone else for a "holier than thou" position.
     
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    Yeah and all blacks had the right to marry blacks and all whites had the right to marry whites so they were all equal. Been there, done that. And polygamy, right. That's a new one, RR. (You forgot bestiality.)

    bigtexxx: my "place" is among a rapidly growing majority of Americans that favor marriage equality in this country.
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    Until you can prove homosexuals are born that way, as opposed to simply expressing their sexual preference, you simply have no argument here. So tuck tail and run off, son. You've lost.

    (and no, a Lady Gaga song or whatever other tangential half-truth link from Kos you post on here will not count as convincing evidence)
     
  17. SuperBeeKay

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    man wants to marry man. but you say that its an equal right because they can only marry woman even though that is not what he wants? holy sht you paid 20k a year at rice and learned nothing...
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    Indeed, sexytexy. The burden of proof is on the homosexuals to prove to us they were born homosexuals. Otherwise, they have NO right to have their completely beneficial and legitimate loving relationships recognized and sanctioned by the government, nor are they entitled to all the benefits and privileges therein. Leave parenthood and taxbreaks to the REAL couples who have REAL love. Not these FAKERS.
     
  19. Steve_Francis_rules

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    You're just making the rest of us hope that he continues arguing. :grin:
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    lol you're confused and bringing up different topics
     

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