Any interest in Bargnani (He is on the trading blocks)

Personally, I'd rather bet on one of the current young PFs on the roster maybe panning out than to take on Bargnani at this point. Not sure Bargnani's probability of turning into a star (as opposed to a talented but flawed, and ultimately not very helpful, player) is higher than that of HOU finding a star out of its existing corp of bigs. More to the point, the current bigs cost a lot less, leaving the team with more cap room to pursue a star maybe as soon as this offseason.

The risk vs reward on Bargs just doesn't make sense right now.

 

This. I can think of a worse starting five than:

Lin
Harden
Parsons
Bargnani
Asik

 

if we do this can we combine Asik and him into one complete player?

 

The point is that acquiring Bargnani and his $$$ contract would ruin the Rockets' off-season.

Substitute Bargnani for any of Josh Smith, Paul Millsap, Al Jefferson, etc. and they are a much better team.

 

I wouldn't mind him. As it stands in a run and gun offense like the Rockets have he could definitely provide points and spread the floor with his shooting. Also trailing the fast break would leave him open for a lot of good looks from behind the arc.

My only issue is, if his contract prevent us from landing a borderline star, then it would not be worth it.

 

on the trading blocks

 

Bargs is a frigging ball hogging black hole on offence and soft as buttery croissants on defence.

 

If the Rockets get him, it's likely done after their big FA signing, or after another trade where they've filled up their cap. For example, they sign Iguodala to a big contract and then trade for Bargnani. Or they trade for Granger at the deadline, and then trade for Bargnani at the same time. Not saying these are good moves, but examples of how to make the capspace work.

Based on Morey's MO, there's very good chance he use the cap on one major player, then try to trade for another major player afterwards to maximize high level talent on the roster.

 

I can see him as a logical acquisition in either scenario, but the problem is one of time. The Raptors are looking to move Bargnani *now* before his trade value plummets even more. That means this deal would have to happen earlier, before the trade deadline, and before the FA signings in the off-season. The timing is just bad for the Rockets and for other teams in a similar situation.

If he were on an expiring deal this season, it would be another matter entirely. I'd say load up for a playoff run. But as it stands, he would just inhibit the Rockets' roster flexibility going forward, and we all know inflexibility is something Daryl Morey is often eager to avoid.

 

No. I am not interested in his new line of suits. Cause that is all we will see if he comes here.

 

HELL to the NO

 

Only if he came with Terrence Ross (and still maybe no.)

 

Hell no. This guy can't defend or rebound

 

Can't rebound and can't d up. NEXT!

 

Agreed. Cap space is absolutely more valuable than the terrible Andrea Bargnani. Note that the Raptors started winning basketball games IMMEDIATELY after Bargnani got hurt.

Many fans (and sportswriters, hell, even some executives!) fail to recognize that some players have what is referred to as "negative trade value." Which means that they are so bad, from a bang-for-your-buck standpoint, that they are worth less than $0, and that cap space (i.e., nothing!) is worth more. The best current example of such a player is Amare Stoudemire, not only of the phenomenon of a player with negative trade value but also of the phenomenon of fans/sportswriters failing to view players from a bang-for-your-buck standpoint, and/or an efficiency/plus-minus standpoint. Stoudemire's contract is spectacularly awful (and was spectacularly awful from the very second that it came into being), as Stoudemire is a mediocre, injury-prone (and uninsured!) prima donna, yet I remember an article on Yahoo! just a week or so ago that talked about how surprising it was that the Knicks organization was trying to pawn Stoudemire off "for free" this past summer/early fall. Why would it be surprising to any rational person that a professional sports franchise was trying to give away the worst contract in the entire professional sports league? Yet I guarantee you that there are a bunch of Knicks fans who bizarrely believe that the team will get better, a lot better, when Amare Stoudemire returns, and would even mock a person who suggested that the team should give Stoudemire away for contracts that expire as soon as possible, no matter how bad the players signed to such contracts might be.

In any event, no well-managed team (such as Houston) will be interested in trading for a player/contract such as Bargnani. Toronto will likely need to package Bargnani's two remaining years with Jose Calderon (solid player) and his contract (expiring contract) for players with contracts that expire at the end of the 2013-14 season. In other words, Toronto would trade a team a fair amount of 2013 payroll relief/cap space (in the form of Calderon's expiring contract) for 2014 payroll relief/cap space (in the form of the contracts that, unlike Bargnani's, expire at the end of the 2013-14 season). The players Toronto gets back in such a deal will probably not be very good. If ownership knew what it was doing, they'd fire their GM, Bryan Colangelo, who is just completely incompetent and continues to make spectacular mistakes, the most recent being the large extension given to DeMar DeRozan, whose name is "DeMar DeRozan."

 

Good read! Only thing is I didn't get your DeMar DeRozan joke.

 

I like the idea of a stretch 4 but I would not want to be strapped with his salary. It's not a crazy idea because I think he would fit what the Rockets want to do with their offense but he would severely impede what they are trying to do in the off season.

 

Only if he came with Lebrun James

 

His high scoring average and pedigree will make him too expensive both in terms of salary and what the Raptor will want back.

However, as much as people love to hate is rebounding, I think it actually be a good fit as a 6th man type. parking him at the 3 point line, for instance, means you can be more creative.in moving Lin around and off the line. the pick and pop with Harden would be nice too.

Historically, there has been a role around the league for no defense no rebounding bigs as 6th man instant offense.

But again he will just cost too much.

 

I wouldn't mind it if he had a more reasonable contract. 11m for the following 2 years is just an albatross for our cap room though.