One advantage of trading for Love now vs. waiting for free agency is the contract. If for some reason (injury is an example) he did not work out, the contract would be up in two years. If we signed him as a free agent, it would probably be a four or five year contract. Of course if we trade, we have to give up assets. But I guess in these times even a free agent signing involves some sort of trade.
Depending on what happens the rest of the year will depend on if Kahn decides to part ways with Love. Kahn prob. would "LOVE" to send him out EAST, but I don't even think he got into the Howard deals so that says a lot. Even if Love isn't performing that great this year in comparison to last he is still worth A TON! Right now we'd have Parsons, and PP to offer along with some young guys MINN. might be interested in. These are the "prized possessions" other teams are drooling for possibly. Even Asik could be added to those guys. PP is a very smart defender even with a bad year this year many would say. I say Asik is playing that well that makes PP weakness rebounding/toughness even more apparent. --I don't see Morey trading Parsons even if it is a package deal for Love. Parsons is underpaid BY FAR, and is a "Morey type" of a guy. A guy that he might hold on for too long. Who knows? I think his ceiling is pretty high compared to his PAY! Morey has always had a thing for Parsons even before we knew how good he was. Parsons is no all-star, but he is a player a team needs to have to WIN & WIN BIG even with superstars on a team. "Easily replaceable" like some have said of Parsons is so far from the truth. You'd be replacing him with a guy that prob. doesn't put up the same stats (on the stat sheet, and the stats he puts up that don't show up on a stat sheet), and on top of that you'd be overpaying for someone to replace Parsons, or getting a cheap inferior product. There are exceptions to this with Morey I'm sure, but they are so few and far between that I just don't see Kahn talking to us until maybe this summer. Morey will do all that he can to have "some more" assets to get someone big this summer, or sign and trade with someone! Two Centers still are out there to be singed and traded, or signed this summer that Morey fancies over. More so than even LOVE! Trust me when I say this Parsons is not "easily replaceable" in the words of some. We are talking about a dude making under a mil./then about a million dollars for a couple more seasons, and is already showing great promise even more so than that promise he showed in his rookie year. Morey will do all that he can to get another superstar here, whether it is, Howard, Love, LMA, Millsap, or any of the other Jazz's numerous players that Morey "loves" more than LOVE. **All those guys might be easier to get than Love, but I'd have never thought we'd grab JAMES HARDEN when it happened either so TRUST IN MOREY!! (I just see Parsons as a huge piece to the puzzle for a "big time trade," and I think Morey sees Parsons worth a lot. If Parsons was being paid 5 mil a year, or something high so to speak maybe, but not with the contract Parsons has.) --In fact the way Parsons is being paid compared to the way he plays is an advantage to US the Rockets, but a negative involving him in trades because it'd be a disadvantage to us the ROCKETS to trade a young player showing a whole entire skill set & not being paid like that of "his REAL NBA worth." See to the Rockets "asset book", it's brilliant to have this underpaid Parsons doing everything one couldn't even imagine a second rd. pick being able to accomplish in his first "FULL 82 game REAL SEASON." Parsons is a steal for us, and if we traded him on his pay scale right now the way he is producing; than personally, I think we would lose out regardless if say, a Kevin Love came in for Parsons & some young throw ins. Right now Parsons is our biggest asset not only through his play, but his pay as well. If we traded Parsons his "GREAT CONTRACT" would kill us more than his loss of play because of how cheap he is. Right there is a big thing not only is he outplaying his contract, but his contract isn't expiring soon. -*So if you package up Parsons to bring in a superstar; ya the team gets a "big name", but loses out on a very important piece to a team that has "such capable superstars." We saw with Yao, and Tmac not only the injuries, but the team around him was just bags of mixed chips that never "meshed well enough." (I blame TSlack though makes me feel better ) ....But there wasn't a Parsons type of player (older player example in age, but Bob Sura the one year before his back blew up, who was similar to Parsons in what he was paid like a Parsons type of guy meaning he played above his salary, and then we later had Luther Head.. SMH.. who played great in the reg. season, but couldn't hit a shot in the playoffs, other than those two that had some quality to the teams, and not taking anything away form JB, or DW, and excluding Artest since Tslack didn't play with him, thus Artest & Yao still getting us to game 7 against the Lakers in the second round), but we tried that before just putting shooters around the superstars. Artest is/was the kind of the Parsons type a team needs with superstars around him, but then he was older, and well over paid than a Parsons, albeit, we stole him from SAC. for CHEAP. I just don't see Parsons being easily replaceable, and when you get rid of the "Parsons," and even "the CLEE's" of the world; these are players a team that goes far in the playoffs needs surrounding their superstars. I would bet a lot of money if I was a betting man that Parsons is among the "untouchables" at the moment along with of course our backcourt of James Harden, and Lin (at least for this full year Lin is untouchable, and I'd prob. think no way he is going anywhere since Les & the organization saw what happened when we just "cut" him, and he is slowly starting to drive to the hoop better, and gain a shooting stroke. THANK THE LORD because I didn't know if that'd happen!! The posters who say he is better than Rubio at shooting are correct. I love Rubio, but think he's a tad overrated at this point. Then again Lin is too. So let's say Lin is untouchable as well unless something drastic happens. Same can be said for let's say Parsons, and I say this because he is very young, and VERY UNDERPAID now, and for a couple years to come. Which helps us greatly, but also would hurt us in a trade if we traded Parsons now, or soon. It'd hurt a lot worse if we ended up replacing him with a higher paid vet. that has reached his ceiling as well; something I'd call an inferior commodity compared to Parsons, and if you chose to go young/cheap again you're probably getting an inferior product to replace him there too. So to me either way you fail in the situation of losing Parsons as long as he continues to play like he has been (progressing fast), barring injury, etc., and is still on his same contract. He has yet to play a full 82 game season let alone reached his ceiling in my eyes, and I'd bet the organizations' eyes --**My main point here is that right now I see Parsons as an "untouchable", so that leaves us with James, Chandler Bang, and Lin as UNTOUCHABLES. So outside of them there is Asik (playing well beyond what we even thought), and our young guys who haven't played really, then there is Delfino who I think is a KEY asset here. No one mentions Delfino. I had barley knew of his game other than he shot the ball a good amount from deep before we snagged him. Delfino is playing well this year, and showing his worth easily replacing the CLEE type of offensive shooter with almost as good as D, as CLEE, but Delfino seems bigger/stronger more capable of defending other players than CLEE could. They are different players, but just meaning the "CLee Type." Then we have PP who is well the question mark I'm sure a lot of teams like him, but he has some question marks ever since his injury after dunking like Blake Griffin his whole ROOKIE year.(I see PP as just a throw in piece so to speak right now, he's barely an asset we could package right now with some of our young guys to get a "Love.") Asik, PP, Delfino, and our cap space these our the assets that are not UNTOUCHABLE, but I could see Morey unloading PP, and a young rookie for a draft pick or two to set himself up this summer. Morey might even buy some picks he is very good at that. As much as I want Love, and see what everyone else that wants him sees; I just don't see it happening right now (meaning by the Trade Deadline. Doesn't matter how unhappy KLove is there. Kahn will wait until the summer MAYBE. Love might have to demand a trade on Kahn & Rick the Ruler to get him out. I don't know?) --To send him to us will take a lot more than we think, and Parsons is the key asset I'd bet everyone is begging for in a trade that Morey offers. Morey has prob. got so many calls on that kid, but he isn't going anywhere mostly because of his "great" contract to the Rockets being paid well below what he probably should be, and his ceiling for him as a player hasn't been reached yet. He's a fill in top 10-15 pick from his draft class looking back at that class in hindsight for any GM, and getting paid so so CHEAP I say again. --You can't trade a player over-playing his contract by hundred fold at the age Parsons is at; barring some knowledge the Rockets know better than the others. The ol' Moral Hazard dilemma, and I think the Rockets Organization knows Parsons has a lot larger of a ceiling than any of these teams have an idea of. Only way we'd trade him is if we know something negative, or see him that inferior in the players we would receive back for him that others have yet to pick up on through any other teams organization's analytical stats. As much as I'd LOVE some KLOVE! Parsons is the guy any team would start with first as the building chip to a trade. Until Morey makes a few more moves like buying picks, trading for picks, etc. we won't have enough assets to make for KLove. This team is going to be built better than we've seen in a long time. Thanks to Morey snagging Harden out of NO WHERE it seemed! James Harden is recruiting his guys to think about it. We would need a Klove demanding to go to Houston type of scenario for us to win in a trade. I TRUST IN MOREY! Be patient, and we will be watching a GREAT TEAM very soon. I'm impressed with this team as it is now, but I know that we need more. Is Klove the answer? I don't know, and is Parsons untouchable? Some think no, but with his contract & play the way it is going right now I think he is untouchable at the moment. I just see Morey as building around Harden, Parsons, and Lin as the base even if that even meant Parsons coming off the bench in the future to make things work out. The future is wide open guys so who knows!? I like where we are headed so far though. TRUST IN MOREY!
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The Rockets wanted Harden after his debacle against the Heat. The Lakers wanted Gasol after he was producing at an all-time low and losing big with the Grizzlies. The Pistons wanted Rasheed Wallace when he was dumped for being part of the Jailblazers. The Kings wanted Webber... etc. etc. etc. The last time a happy, content, playing at peak level star that got traded was never.
I smell a 3 way trade with Sacramento. Adelman can work with cousins, the rest should be kinda easy....
Morey has also said that a superstar type talent could develop from within. It might just be best to let these guys develop that we have...if none turn into the star level championship caliber type player, we'll be in perfect position to sign one. I'm leaning towards just waiting it out. In a couple years the team will still be young/in their prime. Maybe flip Patterson and/or Morris for picks or some good bench depth at pg and sf/sg. Or go after chris Paul and Dwight and send Omer and Lin off in sign and trades....haha
While I still get ticked off at Love when I think about the chump stepping on Scola like he was the rug in The Dude's living room, the rug that was first pissed on, and then stolen during The Big Lebowski, I drool just thinking about him playing next to Asik, with Harden in the backcourt. It would be sick! Here you go, heypartner: <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XcATvu5f9vE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Give us a sign, daryl. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VVmbhYKDKfU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Ok so now my honest opinion: I think the posters who are debating our chances of trading for him now are misguided. There's just no way any GM no matter how stupid they are would trade a superstar with 2.5 years left on his contract. The earliest possible time would be in 2014 when he is a year out from free agency, if and when a max contract extension cannot get done. Just like what happened to Carmelo, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, James Harden, etc etc. So 2014 is when we would pounce for him, and your question would then be modified to: 1.) will we have enough assets at that time to trade for him? and 2.) would we have enough assets to just up and sign him straight off as a max free agent? The answer to the second question would help if it was yes, because like Miami with Lebron and Bosh it would take away the original team's leverage, since the threat that they would bail for nothing would force their hand even further. I think we're borderline able to dump enough contracts to sign another max contract this offseason, much less next, so I don't believe freeing up cap space should be a problem. The answer to the 1st question is "no, right now". But we have seen that Morey is pretty skilled at acquiring and building assets given enough time. And that is going to be his goal for the next 1.5 years: build up value on pieces that we could ship out to get a superstar back in return. Guys we can anticipate being traded by the all-star break in exchange for draft considerations would be guys like Toney Douglas (who has acquitted himself quite well these past two weeks), Carlos Delfino, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris. Guys whose value we could inflate much much higher than their current marks by giving them more playing time would be Greg Smith, Donuts Motiejunas, and Terrence Jones. Motiejunas in particular I have a gut feeling could become a centerpiece in a Kevin Love-type package were he to develop well enough over the next year and change into a tantalizing young talent. Plus, we've seen how Minnesota feels about European players at this point. The guy it would hurt to lose, stupid as it sounds now, is Chandler Parsons. But it's not a dealbreaker. If we drafted a Kawhi Leonard type to replace him him, and it seems like those players San Antonio is just able to pluck out of thin air, then we would be just fine so long as we kept the core of Harden-Love-Asik.
Parsons, aside from being on a favorable contract, is a guy who can blend his game to anyone else we're thinking of adding. I've heard Coach Sampson talk about that. I don't think Morey will give him up. He didn't give him up for Harden even though Presti asked for him. I don't think he will do so for the 2nd star. Besides, what will DM's daughter say?
Why? It's a wrist injury not a torn ACL or something of that magnitutde. If anything now is the time to pull the trigger on a deal for Love, if one would be offered and agreed upon, while his value is at it's lowest.
Kevremy Love was benched by Rick McAdelman in crunch time in Minny's win over Denver tonight. Playing only 23.6 minutes. Get 'er done, Morey! <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gQwco47UdQs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Yes, and they played much better without him. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Read into this what you will: A couple of players mentioned how transition defense improved in 4th-qtr run</p>— Jerry Zgoda(@JerryZgoda) <a href="https://twitter.com/JerryZgoda/status/287059021062602753" data-datetime="2013-01-04T04:52:58+00:00">January 4, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
