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Kings suspended Cousins indefinitely

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SRR21, Dec 22, 2012.

  1. da_juice

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    Makes sense, they need a big.

    Prediction: Perk + Jones + Toronto pick for Cousins.

    Clutchfans riot.
     
  2. smoove shoez

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    Boom. There it is right there.
     
  3. DonatasFanboy

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    So, were there any rumors on what happened? Did he try to choke his coach or something? Indefinite suspension is extreme.
     
  4. Zergling

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    But I think we'd want to keep Patterson so he can serve as Cousins' big brother. They already know each other from playing at Kentucky.
     
  5. Ziggy

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    Is it though? It could be 2 games for all I know.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    No rumors of anything physical that I've seen. He apparently got into an argument with Keith Smart during the 1st half that lasted until halftime, where he blew up on him in the lockerroom.
     
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  7. Francis3422

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    Don't like Cousins. I did when he came out.

    Patterson+Jones and a future pick is all I would give up.
     
  8. conquistador#11

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    Jones,ppat plus pick next year and another pick in 2055 unprotected. But if sacramento calls right now we should also include .00099% ownership in comcast and 1000 cases of wine from lex industries. take it or leave it, sactown.

    But wait there is more, one royce white. We will also include a bus with a year's supply of gasoline!
     
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  9. roslolian

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    Yes Greg Smith's efficiency would drop, but if it did it would likely be in the 40% range of Cousins....which is basically my point.

    Webber, Rasheed, ZBo and Artest indeed became good once they were in the right organization, but do you think the Rockets are that organization? We're young, have a head coach whom everyone knows is not an X-and-O's guy and we're not a contender. If Mchale can't prevent Kyle Lowry, KM and White from running amok what makes you think he'll be able to do something about Cousins?

    Also, Rasheed, ZBO and Artest all matured when they were already in their late 20's to 30's. Sure they eventually sorted it out, but that already happened after several stops at different teams. They were nothing but headaches and distractions for the teams that drafted them. Cousins still has a lot of growing up to do, I don't think the team that trades good players for him now would benefit from it unless it's a "trash-for-treasure" type of deal.

    The most I'd give is PPat and a lottery protected pick. Maybe I could add Morris just so I could clear space for DMo, Smith and Jones.
     
  10. DonatasFanboy

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    It could, if he plays his cards well. But this seems like a severe message. It's sounds like "you won't play for us anymore until you get your sh** together". When the Pacers did this with Tinsley the year after the brawl, it never worked out and he never played a game for the Pacers after that.
     
  11. Easy

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    I wouldn't give up any proven good players for him. That means all of our starters except Patterson. I wouldn't mind giving up our "potentials" (rookies, draft picks) for Cousins' potential of panning out.
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    Cousins is a better player than Smith though. I wonder if the Rockets even give up smith in such a deal.

    Lowry was a player that was mad because he couldn't get PT and wasn't sure if he's going to be a starter. That's not going to happen with Cousins, once the Rockets get him they are pretty much going to sit him, James, and Lin down and say. "You guys are the future."

    Martin was also getting minutes taken from him. Not only that he was playing on a bad team and in a system he probably didn't like too much. Also Martin seems to clash with every coach that isn't Rick Adelman.

    White is Royce White. He's more than a headcase than Cousins it seems.

    I'm just saying. Chris Webber.

    To become a great team you have to take risks. Just like they did with Harden by giving him a max deal. The Rockets have too many front court players right now any ways, they can't keep all of them and all of them can't possibly develop on this team as it is right now. It's just impossible.
     
  13. roslolian

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    This is based on what? Cousins has more POTENTIAL than Smith, but right now Smith is unarguably the better player. Cousins is shooting 41% from the field, just about every other big is better than him right now.


    The point is all those guys have problems, and Mchale couldn't soothe their feathers. You are off your rocker if you think DM or Mchale are gonna sit anyone down and guarantee them minutes regardless of production just because they're the future. The Rox don't make any guarantees because anybody could be traded at any time. If Cousins doesn't defend and doesn't score efficiently or gets outplayed by Asik/Smith then he's gonna be benched. There's a high he'd be sent to the Dleague with his current play, you think Mchale will start him over Smith, Asik, PPat, Tjones and Dmo? He wouldn't know the plays if he got sent here, and the coaching staff and physical trainers would probably take a look at his body fat and have him workout first before he gets PT. That won't be pretty, you'd probably have Royce White 2.0.

    Cousins is nowhere near the caliber of Chris Webber, if Webber was playing in today's NBA he'd be averaging a near triple double like LBJ. Cousins is shooting at an abysmal 41% clip, you could tie one of Webber's arms and have him shoot one handed and he'd still average a higher FG%.

    Signing Harden to a max deal isn't a risk, what kind of risk is there in giving a max contract to a 23 year old player who happens to already be at least top 3 in his position? We have too many young players on the team but there are other players you can target apart from cousins. Worst case scenario you could package them for picks like what we need with Courtney lee and Lowry.
     
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  14. DonatasFanboy

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    Except Kevin Love. Love is shooting 36% right now, which mean's he's the worst big man in the game.
     
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  15. BeeBeard

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    Love has been playing hurt and incorporates 3 point shooting into his game anyway.

    Has Cousins been playing hurt, to your knowledge? I mean besides playing with hurt feewings because Kevin Smart took his wollipop.
     
  16. Shaud

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    Welp

    game set match
     
  17. BeeBeard

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    Keith Smart. Darn you lack of editing.

    Seriously though, Cousins and Kevin Love mentioned in the same breath is lol-worthy.
     
  18. BeeBeard

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    Kevin Love TS%: 47% while playing with multiple injuries to his shooting hand.

    DeMarcus Cousins TS%: 48% while playing with multiple sacs of fat to his shooting hand.


    I love the implication that nobody would spend the 10 seconds it takes to check this stuff out.
     
  19. JayGoogle

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    Why are we only looking at FG% to determine if a player is better or not?
    If the Rockets get Cousins, this will rise. With all the easy shots Asik and Smith get, it will rise very likely. Just like how Martin plays better alongside better players, Cousins will also play better on a better team.

    Is this why when Harden was forcing things the Rockets Still played him? Despite every thing? Do you think they were going to sit Harden? If they got Cousins they would definitely make things revolve aruond them, to not do that is stupid. You get a young player with tons of potential you build around him and do everything to make him happy. They would invest heavily in him and they will do everything to make sure he's in the best situation to succeed, just like they have done with Harden when he was running into the lane with wreckless abandon.

    I guarantee you he would not be sent to the Dleague. You seriously think they would sit him behind Jones and D-Mo? Really? If you really think he's that bad then I don't know what else to say. Any ways some of those guys would be traded for him.

    Webber did play in the modern NBA...with that said Cousins is a high potential guy. If you disagree fine, but up to this point he's flashed his potential and has shown he can play with the big boys and dominate.

    Ever heard of Joe Johnson? There is a long list of guys who are overpaid. Also Harden was a sample size guy, what if all the doubts about him ascending to a all-star weren't true?

    Cousins is a potential guy, just like Harden. You hope they grow into a superstar player but they HAVE that shot.
     
  20. YaosDirtyStache

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    Why not take a shot at Cousins? He comes cheap and if he blows it here we can just sit him at home...thats the bonus of MOREYBALL is we have enough replaceable parts to plug in without much detriment.

    He has TOO much potential to not take a flyer. He should come cheaper since they wanna cut ties.

    To people saying they would rather have Smith...come on. There was never discussion of Smith being a franchise type player and I remember the whole world gushing over Cousins, even this board I read about wanting to try and trade up for him.

    A change of scenery may be the best thing for him. Why not. If it works out we have Harden + Cousins + Lin + enough money to pry a top FA in the off season.

    Thats a recipe for a championship in 2 years.
     

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