The Topic of Gun Control and How it Relates to Recent Mass Shootings

You think by being isolated and not having his parents involve in his life led him to shooting children's and teachers at a school??? Once you've cross into killing little kids and teachers territory, all that bullsh!t talk about mental health issues and lack of social skills go out the god damn door....
I know many of friends who lack social skills/ play video games 24/7 and don't talk to their parents and have not shoot up a school involving little kids... You don't become a monster overnight...

 

Banning assault rifles WILL. NOT. prevent OR reduce another elementary school massacre.

First: Assault rifles are just scary looking. Their benefit is shooting medium distances. VT shooter used pistols to kill 30 ADULTS. Pistols are a bigger problem.

Second: There are over 4 million "assault rifles" in America. The can average up to $1000 a piece. The 1994 ban simply outlawed manufactures from further producing these guns, not owning them. Ownership is not going to be outlawed. There are too many and they cost too much. If there is an assault rifle ban, again, it will be a ban from manufacturing, not owning them.
Explain to me how this is going to help with 4 million of them out on the market already? Its not. Find a better solution.

 

Actually yes. There is a very common thread with these shooters. It usually involves social issues and/or those who have trouble connecting with others. Usually its safe to say that anyone who commits suicide has mental issues. Its the angry ones who are choosing to take out as many as they can with them.

It is ignorant to imply that anyone with social issues will turn into shooters.

 

Good point, not saying that these issues don't play a role in any of this.. It also goes beyond what we think we know on how these monsters become who they are..

 

Why couldnt ownership of assault rifle be banned in a new law? When I say ban, I mean ban people from possessing guns. Details of enforcement can be worked out, which has been discussed in this thread. Take a read. Personally, i would not use a buyback program as carrot. I would phase in penalties if folks dont give up their assault rifles.

Lets take care of them one at a time, dont you worry. Lets solve it one step at a time. I think this is common sense.

 

Kinda reminds me of my professor( a 60 year old woman from Brooklyn) used to say about amicus briefs to supreme court cases: look at these chicken littles!

 

I hate to repost memes I see on Facebook....but someone said "Notice no NRA types were suggesting that if Trayvon Martin had a concealed handgun he would still be alive."

Kind of cuts to the bone of demographics to my way of thinking.

 

Not a big fan of the 5th amendment either, eh?

 

Nice. Another facebook repost:

Put a teacher in every gun store.

 

Are you talking about the taking clause? If guns are outlawed, does it apply? Interesting, lets hear your theory on this?

To the contrary, I think guns should be outlawed partly because of the due process clause.

 

I know exactly where it is. You are the douche bag hippie that says is doesn't exist when it does.

 

Deckard, Vlaurelio posted it. Do you want to apologize to Yallmean for being an insensitive d******d?

 

Stay classy ladies.

 

I would personally agree with a ban on ownership of semiautomatic rifles and high capacity magazines for both rifles and pistols. I would address reducing the amount of those with a buyback program and would fund that with another program that I think is a good idea. I would highly tax ammunition.

Considering that ammunition is a consumable resource while guns are not it might be much easier to reduce the amount of ammunition available than the amount of guns.

 

Red states would refuse to enforce.

 

Maybe IOUs or govt bonds? Send 82nd airborne if necessary. We have been there before.

 

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

Automatic weapons and explosives were nipped in the bud before they could become produced in mass numbers.

Again, if you really think Big Brother can confiscate 4 million guns, you clearly are not using any sense, much less common. If you want to spread fear, that is the quickest way to do it. And quite frankly, it would make these school shootings look like childs play.

Giving a $50 walmart gift card is not going to cut it. Again, most of these weapons avg $1000 a pop. Not only are you asking someone to give up their rights, you are asking them to give up quite a bit of money.

And you are still ignoring the fact that assault weapons are not a big of an issues as pistols.

Practical solutions? (that none of the gun hating liberals are addressing)

Nearly any weapon can be owned with a Class 3 license(automatics, grenades, explosives, ect..), but its a royal pain in the ass to maintain one. it costs lots of money and lots to lose if its not properly maintained.

Start out by creating a similar class for less dangerous weapons than those of a class 3. Require that it be renewed every 3 months with each renewal for $10.00. Things like high capacity magazines (more than 6) and concealed carry require this registration. Further, all gun owners are to keep weapons locked up at ALL times when not in use unless they have this registration.

I am pro-gun ownership and I recognize there are problems. I also recognize most of the insane ideas by liberals are not feasible. The biggest problem is gun owners are not being held accountable for their guns. It really bothers me how many "responsible" gun owners leave their weapons laying around.

 

Why do you think that can be strictly observed and enforced?
Was Nancy not required to lock up her guns all the time? If the gun owners sign up for a home surveillance on the where abouts of their guns, which I think is doable like a GPS locator, I might be convinced

 

I struggle with shyness, timid ness at times.

Good for you for making the effort. I am trying new things as well.

If video games allows people to have FACE to FACE interaction, then that's great. All other types of interaction are not as good.

I never said video games were the problem. Social isolation was the issue. Video games feed into that damaging habit.