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NRA: "Video Games are to blame"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by LosPollosHermanos, Dec 22, 2012.

  1. pahiyas

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    Hey, don't give idea to those who does not have access to guns.
    On second thought, they all have access.
     
  2. Commodore

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    straw man, condemning speech is not outlawing speech

    I make no judgement on how they influence behavior, but GTA and Dexter absolutely glorify violence.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    If your solution does not involve censoring violence in the media, then why the hell would you spend so much time and effort blaming violence in the media?

    Glorify is a tricky, subjective word to use. What we do know is that they allow people to live out any kind of violent fantasy they may have without actually having to be violent.
     
  4. Commodore

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    to discourage its consumption (voluntarily)
     
  5. Commodore

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Where was the liberal “outrage” over Clinton’s “COPS in School” federal grant program? <a href="http://t.co/ycHQHQFD" title="http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2012/12/22/where-was-the-liberal-outrage-over-clintons-cops-in-school-federal-grant-program/">bit.ly/WFFUvG</a></p>&mdash; Phineas Fahrquar (@irishspy) <a href="https://twitter.com/irishspy/status/282645787387781120" data-datetime="2012-12-23T00:36:21+00:00">December 23, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    insane NRA pushing a Clinton initiative
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    I am wondering how much violent video games contribute to gun sales. This is just anecdotal but I know a few people who decided to get guns after playing a lot of first person shooters.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    Is I've been saying all along, guns aren't responsible but they make it a lot easier for them to kill a lot of people.
     
  8. Commodore

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    the media absolutely despises the NRA, they discard any pretense of objectivity discussing it

    Google News, Yahoo, ESPN, AOL, I'm seeing it everywhere
     
  9. wizkid83

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    Posted it in another thread but:

    Kids isolated will be isolated. Some of us are shy and it's actually really hard to talk to people, not every one is extroverted. Clique-ness of highschool really doesn't help either. But if you're not one of the wallflower, you don't really know how it feels or what that type of a person goes through.

    It took joining some school activities and having some really good people becoming my friends for me to become more social. I actually had to force my self to talk to people at parties/social situations before it becomes second nature. But that process is VERY HARD.

    If anything video games actually allows those people to have social interaction and talk to people (whether it's a guild/clan on WOW or FPS games). I've also had friends who weren't that social, played games 6 hours a day, but are still not crazy.

    I blame the media that promotes the idea of what is or is not inferior more than anything else. Bullied for being "different" also doesn't help. If you don't feel inferior everyday, it helps a lot with self confidence and self esteem. Some can get it by becoming successful (extremely good), others chose to do it by going nuts with a gun (extremely bad). The root cause is mental instability, but it's not caused by lifestyles of the villans themselves but our society in general.

    Video games are not the problem, if anything, that actually allows you to potentially have something in common with a ton of other people. I went to PAX East this year (see image if you don't know what it is) and met up with a friend from another city that stayed in touch because of our appreciation of video games. At the same time, I was able to hangout and have dinner with random strangers because we were just walking the same direction, strike up a conversation about what we liked and etc. and became buddies. To insinuate that video game is the problem is stupid.

    TLDR: Video games brings people together and actually makes people more positive. The issue is rest of the society that is infatuated by being better than the next person.
     
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  10. Refman

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    It is simply mystifying that so many want to focus on guns rather than improving our mental health system. Would it make this any more palatable if the shooter had been slinging pipe bombs packed with nails or some other homemade explosives instead of guns?
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    How many times have you seen someone run someone over...arguably one of the most controversial things in GTA?

    What about all the other racing games out there where you crash into stuff recklessly? Do people drive that way on the road?
     
  12. Commodore

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    oh I don't think it negatively influences real life behavior

    but it does glorify violence
     
  13. glynch

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    Good to see I nailed it w.o wasting the 30 seconds.
     
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    I can see both sides but to me it's clearly because the gun is an easy culprit. Mental health is such a difficult, multi-faceted issue and our society wants quick action and quick answers. Hence, fixation on the weapon.
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    Yeah. Sure.

    If you blame the gunner and not the gun, then why blame the game and not the gamer?

    Your post is disingenuous and the logic of the argument is contradictory. Double fail.
     
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  16. edwardc

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    come on guy's you can't blame the game it's the mind set of the person that's playing the game.
     
  17. mtbrays

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    If video games are the reason, how come other Western countries that play the same PC and console games as us don't have mass killings? What makes us so much more susceptible?
     
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    Ofcourse that would not make it more palatable. But that didn't happen.

    Both systems should be focused on. But you do know that it would take money to actually try to improve the mental health system (money for health care and as far as i can tell epublicans do not want to spend to much money in that area).

    But the current US gun regulations do make it very easy to have a gun, and having a gun makes it a lot easier to kill people. If there is a crazy person i prefer he tries to make a home made bomb (which probably will not work) than that he buys a gun and siply starts shooting. Even the biggest gun fan should be able to understand that having so many guns legally makes it easier for crazy people to kill others.

    I'm very glad I do not live in the US and the gun regulation is one of the reasons.
     
  19. Refman

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    Timothy McVeigh blew up the Oklahoma City federal building using a truck and fertilizer. Many were killed, including children.

    The Unibomber sent pipe bombs through the mail that detonated upon opening the package and killed people.

    Home made explosives are not as ineffective as you might think.
     
  20. DonnyMost

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    When you can buy ready made pipe bombs at Walmart, or at a trade show with no wait time or background check, then we'll talk.
     

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