I'm confused to where everyone is standing on Gun Control. Quick poll.

If he is wrong (he very well may be) it should be easily provable. Simply point to the mass murder that took place in an area where guns where allowed.

 

The qualifiers he puts on the statistic (i.e. date and number of casualties) should instantly tell you that he's trying to be misleading. Not everybody who gets shot dies. By his measure, if someone killed 2 people and injured 15 in a mass shooting, it wouldn't qualify for his research. The man is a fraud and a liar, beyond the fact he lacks basic reasoning skills to discern correlation from causation.

 

1950 is the date 3 or more dead. That's not big qualifiers. You also admit there is a correlation between mass murders and gun free zones. What do you think is the correlation? Is there a third party causation? if so what is it?

 

Again, if the author is a proven liar, and the study's funding is suspected to be the NRA, and the study itself is called to question... should you be so defensive if people ridicule it?

But ignoring the integrity of the author and study for a moment, would you consider anywhere in Texas as being a "gun free zone"? And have there been any mass murders in Texas involving firearms?

 

I already posted what I feel to be the actual common thread between these locations here.

 

All you have to do is name the mass murder instance that makes him wrong. That's it. Can you do it? It appears not, so stop attacking the messenger.

I read your comment. All you do is attack the messenger and fail to disprove something that can be easily disproved if it was false. DO a quick Google search of mass murders in America. Go find the event that disproves him and stop attacking Lott.

SO what do you think is the causation of the correlation between mass murders and gun free zones?

 

Just don't shoot kids, how about that??? You can bear all the arms you want, I don't give a ****, don't kill kids!!!!

 

Stop quoting a lying bank-rolled NRA publicist and we'll stop ridiculing him and you.

 

I already posted it. Why do you keep asking me this?

 

We will just have to assume is facts are correct since you are incapable of disproving him. You even admit there is a correlation so I am not sure why you are attacking Lott to begin with. Sounds like you agree with his facts.

 

Do you not know what correlation means?

 

of course I know what it means. If you assume two things or correlated there must be a third party causation or one of the correlated variables is the cause of the other. You claim the second scenario is false. What is causing there to be a relationship between gun free zones and mass murder in the US? No you did not answer this int he other thread. You called Lott a liar or something.

 

Yep, pure coincidence that mass shooting deaths occur where people can't fight back. No causal relationship whatsoever.

 

Yes, in other words, correlation means nothing without causation.

You act as if admitting there is a correlation implies there is causation between the two, this is false.

I already posted what I feel is the causal factor. So stop asking me.

 

no you didn't.

 

Somebody explain the Norway and Dunblane massacres to me

 

Just those two huh? The world is pretty big

 

Please name a common place with limited security and/or screening where large groups of people gather and can carry a weapon.

Hint: There aren't many. Therefore, if I'm going to shoot a bunch of people, chances are it's going to be a gun-free zone no matter where I choose.

Bonus hint: This means that "gun free zones" aren't being targeted, but rather, large gathering places with little to no security or screening.

 

If this is truly how you feel, then you honestly lack enough of an ability to read in order to have a conversation with you. Conversation has to end here. Full stop.

 

Interesting article looking at mass shootings in America:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map