Assessing the Potential Value of a Trade Package for Our Next Star Player

Jazz fan on TheDreamShake wants to trade Milsap for Lin. Utah has an excess of Bigs and needs a PG.

http://www.thedreamshake.com/2012/12/18/3779726/value-of-linsanity

 

Toney Douglas. :grin:

 

And that might potential might translate into us having to trade Asik. Centers are too valuable to have two starting caliber ones on the same roster. That would be a good problem to have though.

 

Nice thread.

I think Parsons, Asik, and a drft pick (mid-late) could get it done. Maybe throw in a young mid-tier guy like Pat to seal the deal. I'm talking about a Hardenesque type player.

 

Get it done Maury !

 

Sign Andrew Bynum to a max contract and pray for one year of health. Teams would be lining up after that.

 

I would think some combination of Montiejunas, Jones, White, Morris and Patterson would be attractive to a team that was in rebuilding mode (and needs multiple power forwards). I like Parsons plenty, but would let him go for a Love caliber player. Pick up a bad contract or two and that can be a fresh start for a team.

 

Aruba might think differently, but right now Parsons & Asik most likely have the best trade value, but the Rockets are missing something for a star package... multiple first round picks.

I mentioned in the random trade thread some teams to eye for trading expiring for expiring this February to relieve lux tax & give future flexibility in exchange for a first rounder. With the amount of expiring contracts Morey has in Douglas, Aldrich, Cook, the team option next year with Delfino, and the 7.5 mil cap space, Morey might be able to snag at least one decent first rounder this February. This could set them up this Summer for a blockbuster deal that centers around-

-The acquired picks from this February- Maybe a late first rounder + a 2nd rounder
-The Rockets lottery pick(assuming they miss the playoffs) that they will then be able to use.
-Young talent- Possibly Parsons or a young PF
-Asik or Lin for a large salary piece

This Summer that might be more than enough to net the Rockets that #2 star to build around with Harden. This Summer seems like the perfect time to make the big splash.

As you saw with the Melo/New Jersey trade deal, and the Dwight/Houston trade situations, even if you strike out on the star player you are gunning for, if you have a solid enough package that's well know out there, someone will eventually go for that package in a later trade if they know its on the market. This is a star package that a team could really go for if they are looking at moving their max salary player to start a rebuild.

 

I think another possibility is that bwith the development of perhaps the best young talent in the league-- Harden, Asik. Lin, Parsons, and one or more of DMo, Royce, Smith, Jones etc. we will look like such a coming young team that a superstar free agent wil want to come to our team to make it a true title contender.

We may just need to let our talent mature and wait for the star to come to us.

 

Superstar and Free agent should be something you should wash away from your vocabulary. Its very, very unlikely that an superstar player goes to unrestricted free agency in the new CBA because of the Melo rule that was installed that disallows sign and trades in this situation.

All supermax soon to be free agents will orchestrate their ways to the teams they want to sign with in free agency before the previous season's trading deadline. This allows the former team to get assets for the player they might lose in free agency, and allows the player to retain their Bird Rights with the team they are trade to.

Dwight and CP3 are in LA to stay sadly. Sorry. Bynum is in a wierd situation, and is someone to watch out for coming up on the trade deadline when the Sixers might look to move him even if its for pennies.

After that there isn't much in the way of a Superstar player actually hitting free agency for the next couple years. Most of those players like Cousins, Love, Aldridge will all most likely be traded the season before they hit free agency. Hence the importance in getting that Superstar trade package locked and loaded.

I do think Houston is definitely attractive to an upcoming free agent, and will ultimately benefit Houston's efforts in getting a commitment to re-sign with the Rockets before their current team trades them.

 

lin+parsons+d-mo+asik

 

-First off, I personally do think Chandler Parsons the player holds equal or great value then a potential lottery pick at this point because of the combination of a few things Lowry did not have. The best contract in the NBA(even though Lowry's was still pretty amazing), versatility to play almost any position(PG's are overflowing), great presence off the court(no homo), and possibly more upside.

Unless the Wizards are offering a lottery unprotected pick in next years draft, I believe Parsons holds better value at this point then a late lotto, or mid first rounder.

-For a star package, I think you need at least one lottery(or projected lottery pick) and maybe another late first rounder to get the conversation started. For a team looking to rebuild, first rounders are a must. The only reason why Houston got Harden was because they had the best pick to offer.

This Summer, assuming the Rockets don't make the playoffs you know they will at least have one lottery pick(their own) to offer on draft night or a few days before. Once the pick is selected, its much tougher to move the player. Hence why Morey loves to deal on draft night.

After you have your picks, you really are just going to base the remainder of the package around what you need salary wise.

Asik stands out as a player that will be very enticing in trades. What team doesn't need a young 7 foot bada#$ center on a reasonable contract? The icing on the cake after that is the young talent. Parsons seems like he's going to be the first and the last name mentioned by the opposing GM when the calls are made. Right this second, if I was an NBA GM calling the Rockets, I would say "No Parsons, no deal." That could change if a player like D-Mo, Jones, etc. have a break out second half of the year.

-Who is available this Summer? Who knows. Cousins, Love, Aldridge all seem like perfect fits for playing next to Harden, but its a big premature to get their teams to bite on a trade package. These 3 guys all look like they could be moved trade deadline 2014 if I had to guess based on their contracts. Might be worth being patient for another year to try for one of these guys.

After the season is finished alot of teams will re-evaluate where they are, and adjust accordingly. Most Morey deals come out of left field so I really dont know. The next big deal that happens will probably surprise all of us to be honest. I can't think of a Morey trade yet that hasn't been out of left field at the time.

One things for sure, this February will be very important to make the best use of the 7.5 mil in cap space and expiring contracts of Aldrich, Cook, Douglas, and even Delfino as teams prepare for the repeater lux tax set to take place next year. What the Rockets bring in from a draft pick perspective could ultimately be the deal breaker if Morey seriously wants to continue his pursuit for that second star when they come available.

 

I dont think front office will trade Lin or Asik. Douglas, Delfino, Cook, Aldrich wont count for anything. We dont really have anything to trade with besides Pat, Morris and our rookies.

I hope Parsons is untouchable.

 

Not true. The Expiring contracts of Douglas, Cook, Delfino(team option), Aldrich + the 7.5 million in capspace represents over 17 million dolllars in salary cap space that the Rockets can absorb in a February deadline trade.

This could just be expiring for expiring, and still the Rockets could benefit significantly from draft pick considerations just using that cap space this year. I agree as players, none of them are going to be considered major trade pieces that help much on the basketball court. Financially they could be very important in getting the assets that Morey needs to make moves later down the line next Summer or further into the future.

 

Based on the pay parsons will get the next few years, I really think that Les wont ship him out no matter who wants to come.

 

Harden, lin and parsons are untouchable. That is my opinion. I bet this is also Les's opinion.

 

False. Nobody on this team is untoucheable if the right deal comes along. Morey has stated that numerous times. If Parsons, Lin, Asik, D-Mo, etc. bring back a star player they can build around they wont hesitate in sending them in a trade.

Harden on the other hand is "Most Likely" here to stay. However, if Lebron James or Kevin Durant become available, Im sure Morey wouldn't think twice about trading him for Lebron or KD.

Importance #1 is getting another star player in Houston that makes this team a contender. Right now they arguably have 1 star player they think might become a superstar in a couple year. Goal #1 now is getting star #2 to make this team a contender.