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The Topic of Gun Control and How it Relates to Recent Mass Shootings

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Harrisment, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. Svpernaut

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    My point is the government can't successfully ban anything that millions of Americans want.

    See the massive failure of the "war" on drugs and the 18th and 21st amendments for details.

    Bottom line? We must get to the root cause of these mass shootings, which is a mental health issue.
     
  2. G Zus Kryst

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    19,308 per 100K?.........n peeps b sayin I aint smart........dude itz 19308 4 2010 total
     
  3. YallMean

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    ^^^^
    This is pure idiotic. By that logic, there shall be no improvement whatsoever in human society because the state of affairs have been so bad. Com'on I think you are smarter than that. You guys are bending backwards and then twist some, coming up with stuff that doesn't pass the laugh test.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Bullcrap.

    The war on drugs failed because when you make hyper-restrictive laws on things that are pretty much innocuous (especially to others), you end up creating a dangerous black market where there doesn't need to be one. Add in the fact that some drugs are highly addictive (and even beneficial), and it just makes it worse.

    Nobody ever shot somebody with a drug.
     
  5. YallMean

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    This is pure idiotic. By that logic, there shall be no improvement whatsoever in human society because the state of affairs have been so bad. Com'on I think you are smarter than that. You guys are bending backwards and then twist some, coming up with stuff that doesn't even pass the laugh test.
     
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    We've banned murder, but people are still being murdered. So, why did we ban murder again?
     
  7. Svpernaut

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    And I feel your argument is idiotic. We aren't going to convince anyone of what they don't already believe. Guns are nearly a 50/50 argument in this state just like the vast majority of hot topics. You aren't going to ban guns overnight, and trying is a waste of time when other things could be done to improve the situation. In politics you have to pick your battles, and banning semiautomatic guns across the board isn't a battle any politician can win.
     
  8. YallMean

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    War on drugs?? War on drugs? Let's focus here.

    Root cause of these mass shootings is a mental health issue? Please ... Ahhh, I am pulling my nuts here for you.

    Ok, I think you will appreciate this. Mental health was not any better prior to there were ever guns invented. Imagine what would Lanza, a person sufferring extreme mental problem, have done in an acient time in a hypothetical psychiatric episode? Would he have had the ability to kill little kids in a span of 5 minutes and shot them multiple times. If Lanza trully suffered Autism, that is a nuerological problem invariably sufferred by a fraction of population throughout the history.
     
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    Well that is quite sad. I, a non-American, is hoping for a ban, or tighter control or whatever to at least reduce Columbine, Aurora, Newtown. And some people wants the status quo?
     
  10. Svpernaut

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    My point stated... government can't successfully ban anything that millions of Americans want. Americans by the tens of millions support gun rights.
     
  11. Svpernaut

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    I encourage you to investigate mass shootings further. Over 75% of recent shootings have been perpetrated by people suffering from mental health issues before their attacks... some would argue that it is 100%, because you have to snap from reality to think that it is okay.
     
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    You think so? I see pro-gun politicans flip like drama queens right now.
     
  13. YallMean

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    You either don't know what a mental problem is or you are that dumb. Geez.
     
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    But it's not a step in the right direction if your goal is to reduce gun violence

    UK: Gun violence up 89% in a decade

    Again what is your goal?


    No gun laws would of prevented Columbine. The guns were sold illegally.
     
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    Do you have data or idea how many of those mass shootings were done:

    a. using illegal guns?
    b. by criminals?
     
  16. Svpernaut

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    Yeah, I don't know anything about mental health issues... I don't help take care of an uncle that is partly schizophrenic, and I didn't have a grandmother who thought her entire family was out to kill her. Mental illness runs in my family, and guarantee you I've spent 1000 times more time in mental health clinic waiting rooms than you ever have or will.

    Mouse over the dots on this map and see "Prior signs of mental illness."

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map
     
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    The bottom line is not "mental health", not all of these shooters are insane, we need to go deeper, to the culture of this country.
     
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    Including the media fixation of it and thus the media consumer's fixation, which clinical psychologist across the board say plays a huge role in followup attacks.
     
  20. Rashmon

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    You say this yet you do not want to impede anyone's ability to purchase guns?

    mmmkay
     

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