[BREAKING] School Shooting in Conn. at Elementary School

So apparently Adam Lanza took up shooting guns at a range as a hobby...

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connecticut-nancy-lanza-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

I hear stuff like this all the time. Then you put people in real life situations and s*** changes drastically.

Once again, give me every opportunity between rounds you can, please. It really can mean the difference between life and death.

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Troubled kid with access to guns, learning how to shoot...the mother's own love for shooting seemed to completely blind her to what was possibly developing right in front of her eyes.

I still think she may have been in denial of how troubled he was or ashamed that he was . I haven't heard/read that he was or had been seeing a doctor. If she has enough money not to work and the kid is having episodes at school, why not get him professional help?

Yeah i haven't read anything about a guard.

Problem is the focus is on protecting kids from each other or protecting teachers from kids, so you're more likely to see armed officers at schools with more behavioral issues. Hook didn't fit that criteria.

 

Lot of bad recipes in that CNN article^^

 

I don't disagree completely with what you are saying, however, once again, you aren't evaluating this case on it's own, independently. 1) This wasn't some shootout with guns blazing...it was literally fish in a barrel. 2) There was no "opportunity" between rounds because he was behind closed door with only him and the kids. 3) you also trying to apply rational behaviour, i.e. panic, to a person who was clearly irrational.

 

I think it's clear that she protected and hid him from others, even his own family members. Why not get him help? Like you said, she was probably in some weird denial/protective state and didn't trust others with him. I

 

There were a couple of kids that were able to run past him to safety. I'd assume that's the opportunity between rounds you're referring to.

Do I need to find the link?

 

It is material because having to relooad makes it harder to kill huge amounts of people in less time, and it serves no other purpose, in a setting where every minute/second for first responders helps or allows people to flee the scene.

Full stop, end of argument. You say you don't want to think about kids being shot 11 times. Maybe you should, next time you try to argue that having high capacity magazines is a dandy idea. It's not.

 

Jesus christ man!!!! A lot of crazy **** going on in that family, a disaster waiting to happen..

 

Maybe because gun laws don't strictly apply to one particular shooting?

Which makes every spare moment even more important. Since those involved did not have the benefit of any means of subduing the attacker other than manually.

Explain that to the kids who ran away from him and survived. Or even better, explain it to the principal who was gunned down trying to subdue him.

Irrational people can f*** up. In fact, they more often than not do.

 

I believe they were able to run past him as he shot other people. One kid said he ran off with some friends as his teacher got shot.

 

Where did you find this?

Only 1 kid survived in the 1st classroom.

In the 2nd classroom all the kids that tried to run past him was killed, the ones hid in the closet survived.

 

Finally found where I read it.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/12/us/sandy-hook-victims/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

^^ Read Victoria Soto's story

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/12/sandy_nook_school_neighbor_hou.html

 

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That's nice. Thanks for posting.

 

Anybody who doesn't think magazine/rate of fire doesn't matter should read this from Slate:

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...town_a_warning_of_worse_school_shootings.html

 

True you haven't said it was all about spanking but that has been the focus of the post that I and others are responding too. Are you now saying spanking doesn't matter that much?

It is a well known fact that Cho was mentally ill. The guy who stabbed 22 kids in China has also been reported to be mentally ill.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/world/asia/china-knife-attack/index.html
[rquoter]Initial assessments suggest the man is mentally ill, Chinanews.com said, citing Guangshan authorities.[/rquoter]

Your evidence that not being spanked had something to do with these case?

 

I think you miss read it, it's widely reported that the children who tried to run past him where shot.

Maybe you misread this part, the ones escaped where hid in the closet.

 

How many times can you pull a trigger in 2 seconds?

We know for a fact that Jared Loughner the Gabby Gifford's shooter was only stopped when he had to reload.

Anyway logically it takes longer to reload a pistol even using a magazine than it does to simply pull the trigger. This incident took only about 10 minutes, and was stopped when the police showed up and Lanza shot himself. Also according to the coroners report those victims were shot multiple times. It is logical to assume that if he wasn't using high capacity magazines or a semi-automatic that less shots would've been fired and possibly less lives lost because he would've had less time to shoot.

 

Bull****.

During the Gabby Gifford's shooting-

19 people were shot in this incident, 6 of them died. Imagine how much lower the body count could have been if Loughner had to reload after 10 shots, instead of 33.