Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2012-13

I just want a young upgrade to Patterson. Lin I think is having a sophomore slump. I see him correcting the problems he is having and being very productive around game 60. He's just f'ed up in the head right now and is thrown off by Harden. Lin thought he was supposed to be the man this year but Harden IS the man and getting paid the money to back that up. Lin doesn't know his role yet and the coaching staff doesn't know yet how to get the two to coexist yet. Upgrade the 4 and this team will be fine.

 

Sorry. Too many yets. Hit submit without proof reading.

 

I know Utah are looking to move Al or Milsap, any chance of the Rox making a move? Or should we wait for the Love sweepstakes

 

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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=btwm27s

rockets send cook (and rights to furkan aldehmer) to chicago for rip and chicago 1st top 20 protected... rockets get a 1st and chicago avoids lux tax next season because cook expires and rips off the books... rockets can then either choose to keep rip as a vet leader or cut him as only 1mill is guarenteed...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=axhg66c

rockets send PPat (and rights to sergio llull) to atlanta for anthony morrow and our own houston 1st... atlanta has a logjam at the 2 and add more depth to the fc... smith/ppat/horford would be nice... also it could be a semi-insurance plan for atlanta in case they cant resign jsmoov... for the rockets we get our pick back and another expiring...

after this it leaves us with a lineup of:
lin/td/machado(d-league)
harden/rip(i wouldnt cut him, but morey might)/morrow
parsons/delfino/tjones/royce(forever d-league)
morris/smith/tjones/aldrich/DMo(d-league)
asik/smith/aldrich/DMo(d-league)

also we would have the current picks:
Our 1st rd pick back
Chicago top 20 protected(2013)
NYK 2nd(2014)
LAC 2nd(2015)
NYK 2nd(2015)

these are the types of moves it seems to me that morey makes... a simple piece by piece asset gathering and building process... he could keep rip and trade him next year to a contender as an expiring and gain another pick as well as if any of the youngsters develop nicely...

thoughts?

TL;DR ? small moves to get draft picks and gain coveted "assets"

 

I think you wait till you find a long term solution. Whether that's Love or someone already on the roster is still a question nobody can really answer right now.

I think its safe to say that both Milsap and Big Al aren't really long term solutions with only half of a season left on both of their contracts.

Maybe something changes next Summer where going after either of them makes more sense, but right now it doesn't.

 

This year's draft is pretty underwhelming tbh. 2014 is the big one.

 

This i know... butttt you need to understand the value of a draft pick... a lottery pick is extremely valuable, as soon as its used(lamb?) It loses value... we could reallistically trade all those picks at the draft with young talent for a star player likr aldridge... or if we dont like whose available, we could trade for future draft picks... morey more than any other gm understands the value of stockpiling draft picks...

 

The first two are interesting

For the next two, what kind of protection would be on the pick? Top-5? Top-7?

And the Suns GM would definitely package Beasley with any sort of high pick.

 

A lot of people here underestimate Paul Millsap. In any case, it isn't the sexy ticket-selling get-us-on-national-TV move Morey's hoping for, so I don't know if it'd happen.

 

A couple problems though with a Milsap acquisition-

A. Will be a free agent so why waste assets on him now
B. If acquired in free agency, what about the slew of young PF's behind him?
C. Is he just a band aid that gets the Rockets into the 8th seed, but kills the cap with his new contract to where it keeps them from acquiring the player that makes them a contender. Not just a 7th seed playoff team.

Other than that, Id love to have Milsap. Def. one of the most underrated players in the NBA. If it works out where they can acquire him, go for it.

 

A. Morey and McHale obviously want to win now.
B. Maybe some of our young PFs would help acquire Millsap. Or could be included in later trades. (I'd like to keep Tjones, though.) Besides, Millsap's shown the ability to slide to the 3 in certain cases.
C. I see your point here. I do wonder, though, where we'll be if we just hold out for the sexy home run; Dwight ain't coming here, we probably won't get Bosh...

 

I haven't seen Millsap play enough determine if he is a good PNR player. Can anyone provide any insight if Harden and Millsap could be a good 2 man team?

 

-The "win now" thing is somewhat debatable IMO. Sure they want this team to win as many games as they can, but when it comes to acquisitions, Morey seems to have the mindframe of preserving that cap space for another player that can put them in title contention, or for someone already on the roster to become another star player in the future.

If it was McHale's choice alone, Im sure he would be all for getting Milsap or a similar veteran player. Morey on the other hand, has been well documented in his quest for cap flexibilty to make a star acquisition.

-Giving up young PF's for Milsap? Why give them up in the deal now if you can just sign Milsap in the offseason? If they just want him for a rental, then they shouldn't be giving up anything but the expirings of Aldrich, Cook to get him. If they want him long term, why not wait till the Summer to sign him outright as a free agent? Just doesn't make much sense to give up anything for him now unless its close to a freebie.

Another note- Id actually be all for Morey signing Milsap if the contract he was on was very tradeable much like the Dalembert contract. If you can get a player like him, and actually make the ability to make trades easier with quality contracts, then Im all for it.

-As for Holding out for the sexy home run.... hey its debatable if Morey will ever get another crack at a superstar in Harden's tenure with Houston. Getting a star player is all about luck. I agree Dwight is not going to be in Houston next year because he will be a free agent signing his last super max free agent contract most likely of his career in the current CBA. He's GOING TO SIGN in LA no questions asked. Now, will he stay there much longer after that? Who knows.

That goes with any superstar player for that matter. Whatever star player the Rockets get going forward, I would be willing to bank on that player being acquired via trade.

So, that's why Im concerned with giving up assets for a Milsap or any other player rental. I would rather see if I could get 2 or 3 good draft picks out of Patterson, Cook, Aldrich, Delfino, and TD that's the much better deal to make long term to put themselves back in contention to get that secondary superstar in trade with having a bounty of assets to offer in trade.

I would like to see this trade deadline for Morey be more about re-filling his lot with as many draft picks as he can get even if it costs them the playoffs this year. That way you A. Put yourself in the market for another star trade, and B. Open up more free cap space to get someone like Milsap as a 3rd or 4th option instead of the 2nd option by cap default.

 

You don't trade for an unrestricted free agent like Mediocre-sap and ruin your off-season. You sign him in the off-season as a backup plan, and probably overpay him at that, if netting far better free agents doesn't work out.

 

This.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bt3c8em + 2013 pick to whoever.

 

Another thing to note about this-

One thing we have seen this past Summer as the first one in the new CBA, is that now more than ever the money will run out at some point, and more than likely alot of these underrated veteran players (ala Carl Landry) are getting much more cap friendly/player unfriendly contracts once the hot commodity free agents are plucked from the lot.

Milsap is a guy who could very well fall by the wayside for a few weeks while teams with capspace go for the larger fish Big Men such as Josh Smith, Al Jefferson, and possibly Andrew Bynum if the Sixers choose to look in another direction. Pekovic will also be a restricted free agent, and Chris Kaman could also be sought after as well.

Point being, Milsap might be a steal next Summer to those who have the patience to wait out the first few days of free agency.

 

Not bad, badlee. I'm sure any trade for Demarcus Cousins will involve John Salmons, you included prospects that teams would covet even though some people here think they are untouchable, you improved our PG position, and got a nice expiring contract out of it. Me gusta.

In before someone claims Cousins is an immature headcase, with a low FG%.

 

I appreciate the creativity but a few things-

-If Lin is having trouble splitting usage with Harden, he surely will have problems playing off the ball with CP3.

-Cousins would have to really push the front office & coaches pretty hard to get them accept Asik as the centerpiece coming back to them in a Cousins trade.

 

Why would the Clippers do this trade? No reason for them to trade Bledsoe at this moment. They'll hold him for another year or so before trading him.

 

I figure CP3 being the purest of points in the league would figure that out.
As far as the Kings, they have sucked for awhile so why not go another direction with Robinson and D-Mo.