ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Raptors 12/16/2012

With 50 seconds left on the clock in the fourth quarter, Amir Anderson brought the ball up. Calderon ran up to the top from left court with Lin trailing. Anderson turned around and handed the ball to Calderon as he brushed across Anderson's chest running toward right and Lin tried to get around Anderson. Anderson turned around and facing Lin, he moved left and right around Lin with both of his arms around Lin to push Lin back, as Lin tried anxiously to get pass to catch up on Calderon.

My blood started to boil seconds later after Lin fouled on Calderon when I heard the commentator say 'Jeremy Lin's got to know that on a main shot, he's got to be in Jose Calderon's grill and not let him get the ball on the inbound. He's got to do that. Now you start fouling the guy (Calderon).'

He was actually and blatantly putting salt on the wound and adding insult to the injury.

Calderon got 2 on free throws with 19.7 seconds left in the game.

Poor Lin. He was called foul when he didn't even touch Calderon. And now when he finally got to touch Calderon after all these team shielding and pushing him away from 'that guy' he got this bull**** from the commentator.

What can he do to clean his reputation with all this nonsense?

Were the refs and Rockets coaches all blind till the whole game was almost gone and still not see what all the Raptors had been doing to make sure Calderon well protected and have the ball safely in his hand, to shot or to pass for another assist, and to get his triple double on the Rockets?

Then at 17.0 seconds left when Harden was shooting his three throws, Lin was called to the side to talk with McHale. The commentator (I think his name is Rod Black. Correct me if I am wrong.) said McHale was telling Jeremy Lin 'whatever you do, don't let number 8 guy get the ball.'

I really would like to know what you Rockets fans would feel when you hear this.

Then McHale put Douglas in even there was only 17 seconds left!!!???

Stay tuned. I have spent like 7 hours recapturing these blood-boiling episode for your pleasure. And you will see all my posts on this 'Raptors' Win Exposed' in one post if I still have the energy and patience to do it.

 

The correct way to say it should be 'The entire Raptors team made Calderon look like CP3' with their dirty little tricks uncaught, not Lin.

If you are interested to know what I am talking about, go back to my post #1083 and follow me from there.

 

I know Harden has been made out to be this superstar talent... but the guy has never carried a team to wins... he was a complementary piece in OKC... to just assume and jeopardize of a player who has proven he can carry a team albeit for a small sample size last year.. and 1 game this year.. but still a larger sample size than Harden is just foolish.

Harden has never shown he can do what he's trying to do now... he's never had any experience doing it. Morey and Mchale are just speculating that the talent he has shown prior to the trade projects into being a player that should be able to carry a team. After seeing him in this role... I'm not entirely sure that just because he puts big numbers up that it leads to wins.

 

Are you ****ing kidding me? Lin over Harden? That's the stupidest thing I've heard in this thread. SMFH dude, WAKE UP.

 

It's coming. I am compiling them now.

 

Wow, I can't believe Lin let Jose Calderon get a triple-double. He's not even the number one pg on Toronto's team, smh. I can't wait to see what Lin has in store for an encore tomorrow night against NY at MSG.

 

Linsanity has driven some people insane.

 

What the heck??? How did we lose to the freakin Raptors and let the scrub Calderon get a triple double? How can our starting PG Lin play well against parker and the spurs defense but not do anything against the no defense of Calderon, seriously his PG defense is probably the worst in the league's, and the soft raptors paint defense. ( Do they even have one) Was this Mofo playing passive again?

 

Raptors's Dirty Little Tricks Exposed

I watched a replay of today's Rockets game against the Raptors. The purpose of this re-view is to find out if the Raptors had been illegally blocking the Rockets' defenders to help Calderon and DeRosan.

Following are my findings posted on ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Raptors 12/16/2012. Best to read them while you are watching the replay to see with your own eyes again, but maybe with different understanding this time.

Post #1083 on Page 55

At about 10:40 on the clock in the first quarter, Harden guarding Calderon. J. Valanciunas (will call him JV from now on) came up to set the screen. He cut in between Harden and Calderon, turned around and started pushing Harden back toward the basket for at least 3 feet, thus creating the space for Calderon to score to 4-0 on the right side of the court.

Tell me if this is a defensive foul that should be called.

Other evidences coming up. Stay tuned.

#1094

At 9:32, Calderon bringing the ball up, Lin in front of him. JV cut in between, pushed Lin away with two hands before he put his hands down in front. Both of his feet moving all the while. Borderline of fouling.

Calderon shot right after and brought the score to 6-0.

#1104

Start reading my posts from #1083 for more Raptors illegal blocking of Roxx defense.

Calderon's first two shots over PNR were done through J. Valanciunas pushing Roxx defenders Harden and Lin away with his hands.

On the first shot of Calderon, JV pushed Harden back at least 3 feet to give Calderon the space to shoot. That was outrageous. Can you call that a legit screen?

More report coming as I continue to re-watch the game.

#1114

Read my posts starting #1083 for report on Raptors illegal blocking of Roxx defense.

I have come to the end of the second quarter re-watching the game today.

The Raptors have been running PNRs all the time even with Calderon on the bench with great results. They did it all the time except in fast breaks, which happened more in this quarter.

Stay tuned. For more report on how the Raptors have been using screens not quite right but escaped foul calls.

#1118

*I am starting to watch the third quarter now.

There was one foul in the first minute in the first quarter that I think definitely should be called on J. Valanciunas pushing Harden three feet back after he cut in between him and Calderon to create the space for Calderon to bring the lead to 4-0.

Then he did it to Lin for Calderon to score the next two points.

How could any one guard Calderon when he got help like this? Just push the defenders away so Calderon could shoot?

Watch these first two minutes again on League Pass reply if you can and tell me if fouls should be called.

I am sure more will happen in the third and fourth quarters when the Raptors were anxious to get ahead.

#1136

At 6:30 in the third, Calderon, with Lin guarding, crossed Johnson's screen on the right side when Johnson walked up to Lin's left without stopping. He then pushed Lin back at least two feet so Lin could not follow Calderon. Calderon scored a two with that.

Offensive foul should be called on Johnson the tallest guy on court at that moment.

I have spotted at least three illegal pushing with both hands by Raptors screeners on Harden and Lin up to this point, that resulted in Calderon scored three times for six points.

The refs never called foul on any of these and a number of other minor ones.

No one could guard Calderon with such blatant offensive fouls.

More reports coming up as I continue to watch the replay for more evidences.

My first post on this was #1083 in this thread on Page 55.

#1140

At 5:55 in the third quarter, Lin guarding Calderon on left court, Calderson faked shooting without jumping as Lin jumped straight up about four feet away. Lin landed never touching Calderon but a foul was called him.

The replay on screen showed Lin already half turned his back on Calderson and there was about an arm's length between them when Calderon while crouching pushed the ball out to touch Lin on his back. Then a foul on Lin was called.

This should have been a flop and Calderson should get a warning for this.

Continue to follow me for more dirty little tricks the Raptors played today to get the win.

My first post on this started as #1083 in this thread.

#1147

At 4:52 in the fourth quarter, Lin guarding Calderon. As Calderon moved from the top to the right side of the court, number 15 moved up from 4 feet away to block Lin and bumped him off with the left side of his hip. Calderon continued to dribble to the right court and passed the ball out.

As far as I know, a screener should have both feet on the ground and not be moving toward the defender and should not touch the defender with his hands deliberately let alone pushing, or a defensive foul would be called.

Should a foul be called on A. Johnson in this case?

Continue to follow my report on Raptors fouls not called that might have helped them win this game today against us.

My posts on this started on #1083 in this thread.

#1151

Quote:
Originally Posted by just a word *
you should collect all these in one place/post, it's kinda difficult to read all scattered like this.

I am doing the writing and posting as I am now watching a replay on the League Pass.*

I might put all my posts on this issue in one post later after I have gone through the replay. Right now I feel a bit exhausted and impatient watching the replay and writing and posting for almost three hours.

To make sure I am reporting correctly on what had actually happened, I would watch the replay of an episode for as many as seven times to find out who the offender was. As I am watching the replay on my iPhone, the number and the face tended to be too small to identify.

Scrolling through the posting from #1083 in this thread for the exact time as you check the replay may not take you much more time.

Glad you are interested to find out what caused us the game though.

#1161

With 50 seconds left on the clock in the fourth quarter, Amir Anderson brought the ball up. Calderon ran up to the top from left court with Lin trailing. Anderson turned around and handed the ball to Calderon as he brushed across Anderson's chest running toward right and Lin tried to get around Anderson. Anderson turned around and facing Lin, he moved left and right around Lin with both of his arms around Lin to push Lin back, as Lin tried anxiously to get pass to catch up on Calderon.

My blood started to boil seconds later after Lin fouled on Calderon when I heard the commentator say 'Jeremy Lin's got to know that on a main shot, he's got to be in Jose Calderon's grill and not let him get the ball on the inbound. He's got to do that. Now you start fouling that guy (Calderon).'

He was actually and blatantly putting salt on the wound and adding insult to the injury.

Calderon got 2 on free throws with 19.7 seconds left in the game.

Poor Lin. He was called foul when he didn't even touch Calderon. And now when he finally got to touch Calderon after all these team shielding and pushing him away from 'that guy,' he got this bull**** from the commentator.

What can he do to clean his reputation and records with all this nonsense?

Were the refs and Rockets coaches all blind till the whole game was almost gone and still not see what all the Raptors had been doing to make sure Calderon well protected and have the ball safely in his hand, to shot or to pass for another assist, and to get his triple double on the Rockets?

Then at 17.0 seconds left when Harden was shooting his three throws, Lin was called to the side to talk with McHale. The commentator (I think his name is Rod Black. Correct me if I am wrong.) said McHale was telling Jeremy Lin 'whatever you do, don't let number 8 get the ball.'

I really would like to know what you Rockets fans would feel when you hear this.

Then McHale put Douglas in even when there was only 17 seconds left!!!???

Stay tuned. I have spent like 7 hours recapturing these blood-boiling episode for your pleasure. And you will see all my posts on this 'Raptors' Win Exposed' in one post if I still have the energy and patience to do it.

Afterword

If you don't have time to watch the entire game again, then at least watch the first two minutes of the first quarter, and the last two minutes of the fourth quarter.

It will make me feel my time well spent if you care to share your feelings and thoughts on how the Rockets lost this game to Raptors.

Keep your confidence in this young team high. They, yes, including Jeremy Lin, have done much better than you thought in this game, if not others.

 

Jose Calderon is the best PG for the Raptors. He has won two silver in the Summer Olympics, plus a gold medal in the FIBA World Championship, and two silver and one gold in the FIBA European Championship.

To find out why he was able to get the triple double, please read my post titled 'Raptors' Dirty Little Tricks Exposed' on Page 59 on ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Raptors 11/16/2012. It would drastically change your view of how this really happened.

 

Upon checking the Wikipedia for accurate terminology for what the Raptors had done, I found they should be categorized as 'illegal screening' and offensive fouls should be called on the screener.

I had two typos in my first two posts, it should be 'offensive' foul rather than 'defensive' foul.

 

Mchail already kill the game long before this match up. and let's see tomorrow

All about team work and confident now
ASIK and especially LIN confident are not in the good position.. and the stories always repeated... you still in the win mode in the 4th quarter. you put toney and NOT PLAY Lin for ENTIRE 4th quarter game(ENTIRE). and many times i see he limit ASIK playtime too... both confident must be down even we get the win, especially LIN cause of pro and contra that he got.. now, they have to make ASIK and LIN confident back.. that's their job. BRING BACK THE CONFIDENT AND THINK HOW TO PLAY WITH THE PIECES that you got.. if can't.... just change the coach for sure

 

Dude, just stop posting.

 

when Lin is playing well and dominating the ball everybody gets involved and we win beacuse of the teamball..when harden is dominating ball yeah sure we get a lot of easy points but the rest of the team stays uninvolved and we lose...

 

Read Post #1169 right under yours. You will get a detailed answer for your question with evidences that you can verify if you would watch the game replay any time on League Pass if you have it.

 

Man, just for the time and effort alone, I have to give you an A+

 

Why don't you create a new thread of all you findings, so it won't get buried here.

 

You realize he has played with Durant right? During crunch time OKC would let Durant or Westbrook take over

 

The last and only time Lin played great the Rockets lost.