The Topic of Gun Control and How it Relates to Recent Mass Shootings

Look at Austrailia, they passed bans on these mass weapons and deaths went down 40% and not a single mass murder in 14 years.

 

A .30-06 is a far more deadly weapon, a .223 is actually white a weak rifle. So the people calling for an assault rifle ban don't have as strong grasp on the concept of caliber and rate of fire of standard hunting rifles.

 

You apparently don't either. Stop acting like 5.56 does not kill. Rifle ammunition has far greater range and assault rifles have 30 round mags... perfect for mass shootings.

 

Look at Chicago....

 

An AR is also far easier to use in close quartered areas than a 30-06 rifle. The lighter recoil of a .233 also makes it easier to aim the next shot.

 

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And the Texan answer to school shootings is to give all principals M4s...

My God, who votes for this guy?

 

Okay, here's honest: an unemployed former teacher's aid in Connecticut had a bunch of semi-automatic weapons to protect herself and her family.

She, a child of hers, and a couple of dozen others are now dead.

If only it were just her and her son, I actually wouldn't have a problem with her (terrible) decision to keep war weapons in her home.

 

They already have teachers carrying firearms at some of the slums near me (to protect the teachers from the students).

I wouldn't be surprised if some schools start to put in panic rooms (sort of like duck and cover, except actually effective).

The biggest problem is that the contingency plans for school shootings are ineffective. For instance, at my school they tell us to cram in the back left corner of the room with the doors locked. Well, great. Now we're all immobile and in one spot for the shooter. The door is too thin to stop a bullet, and the glass window isn't bullet-proof. If they really want to, they will come in.

 

As a person who has an arsenal of weapons and assault rifles... I have to call you out on this statement. The AR-15 also comes in the .308 caliber which is just as powerful as the 30-06. In fact the military switched from the 30-06 to the .308 in the 60s.

Quite simply, semi-automatic assault rifles need to be banned. I have no qualms giving up my AR (provided the government reimburses me for it).

 

Nothing needs to be banned. Maybe alcohol or cigarettes, but the threat to the mass public is nothing compared to power of what the drink and the tobacco can do.

 

There is no reason for me to own a gun that can a lot more people than a shotgun, hunting rifle, pistol. Only reason I bought it was because it is fun as hell to shoot at the range, completely unnecessary. Every other gun should not even be discussed for banning. AR's need to go though.

 

My advice, don't live life based on what you "need", if we did that you wouldn't have a hell of a lot, and not a life worth living. Once ARs go others will fall in line...as precedent.
Now if we are talking saving lives, then I can understand perfectly banning more dangerous non-protected threats to the "people" such as alcohol, tobacco among other things...

 

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You were saying?

Let's look at New York City, home of tyrant Bloomberg and some of the strictest gun laws in the nation.

http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.8120...ork-is-near-historic-lows-ray-kelly-1.4063235

 

I don't think deputizing normal citizens is as helpful as when you have a volunteer force that can be called up and issued arms in certain situations. Those volunteers need to be trained ahead of time. Such forces would be useful in situations after major earthquakes or storms when the national guard can take days to move in and the local police are overwhelmed.

I think in terms of protecting one's home a better alarm system is far more effective than a gun. An alarm system will prevent people from even getting past the front door whether you are home or not. and home invasions are quite rare as well.

i think shotguns and non-automatic pistols suffice for home and personal defense. i also think the maximum caliber should be limited to 9mm to prevent lethal damage from one shot.

we basically are in agreement. I've been back and forth on this, but I think it's time all auto and semi-automatic weapons as well as bullets for those types of weapons are completely banned and made illegal to own, use, fire in any way shape or form.

 

I'll be on the ban gun bus as long as we ban alcohol and tobacco while we are at it. ...think of the children. . .

 

America puts limits on the abuse of these substances in order to protect lives, but can't even think to restrict items that are meant, even with proper usage, to harm and destroy.

 

I know right, we have to stop alcohol and tobacco, anyone can use them to cause so many deaths. At least firearms have a useful purpose and are o btw protected.
Logically we must attack and ban more severe threats to the people. . . (Head shakes slightly)

 

There is a sickness running through our society and, sadly, we are not alone. An incident with similarities happened in Norway, ordinarily one of the safest places on the planet. I don't know what to do about it. There is a failure somewhere, and we need to figure out what that failure is.

 

You are letting the amazing be the enemy of the good - stop it. You must paralyze yourself into inaction by focusing on how much better things could be rather than focusing on things that are easier to change. This is that mode of thinking that makes it really hard to make dinner plans.

 

Don't talk about no stinking numbers; gun nuts just don't care.

They are a resentful fearful lot who think they will be losing something and they don't know exactly what. I think their issues with gun control are frankly psychological involving any or a mixture of a number of issues, a general feeling of powerlesness, size of their paycheck, status at work, number of years of education, resentment of city dwellers or , Northern Yankees, a dsire for the simple justice of old cowboy movies, etc