[BREAKING] School Shooting in Conn. at Elementary School

Yes, we should decriminalize all drugs and offer treatment rather than prison. I encourage you to research Portugal's decriminalization of drugs, which has been an overwhelming success.

 

My rights are defined by the Constitution, so I have no idea why you're asking me to define those rights. The US Supreme court upholds or denies those rights as needed.

 

Jesus Lord, your dad went through the Vietnam War too??? Dude who are you?

 

LOL! Over seven million men served in the Vietnam war. If you're in your 30s or 40s, good chance your father served.

 

My understanding of the military is that combat weapons are the property of the US military and are issued by the military. I don't doubt that your dad might've paid for it but that sounds more like a matter of corruption and or a failure of his unit to be properly equipped.

Anyway sorry to hear about your dad.

 

ATTENTION BBS

^not only is this guy posting incorrect details about the story itself, but he is also pretending to a gun enthusiast, & is posting false information about firearms as well. Even beginners who barely know anything about them would have already learned the opposite of the above bolded statement is true. It's the first thing anyone learns when looking into firearms for self defense, that handguns are underpowered & far less effective vs. Rifles & shotguns. They're a compromise in that regard in exchange for concealability.

Like fake LOF's, he's anti-trolling, acting like an extremist & making more moderate enthusiasts look bad. Completely understand if you have to continue to argue with him though. It's just unfortunately he's the representative, when the argument probably shouldn't be made here in the first place. #NOWISNOTTHETIME! etc.

 

Military men and women buy their own weapons all the time, including sidearms. Just as they buy improved body armor, sights, night vision, etc.

 

Folks, some of us beg you to not let one poster make this his coming out party. Please?

CNN reporting now that Lansa shot his way into the school and definitely had all three weapons on him in the end. So presumably he used the Bushmaster to essentially make his own entrance.

Here is the .223, from what I understand.



No matter anyone's politics, it's just so revolting to imagine that thing anywhere near a school. Names of the kids and ages showing all slain kids were either 6 or 7. Major ugh.

 

I honestly feel for you. You sound like a responsible gun owner and it is sad that responsible gun owners like you have to deal with things like this. The problem though is that we don't make laws because of people who are responsible we make them for people who aren't.

 

A .45 caliber hollow point round is far more deadly than a .223 round from close range. Same with a 357 and .44. There are arguments to be made for .40, 9mm and other rounds. My statements were completely true.

 

Side arms, body armor and etc are one thing. A fully automatic assault rifle used as a primary combat weapon is another. Just ask any Iraq and Afghan vet how likely it is for them to take their rifles with them from the theatre.

 

Or perhaps stop quoting him? Ah forget it (leaves thread.)

 

Yes I have followed Portugal and Holland's decriminalization and I agree that treatment should be the greater focus rather than enforcement. That said there are a range of drugs such as PCP's that are known to cause psychotic violent behavior and Holland hasn't decriminalized those. Also consider that Portugal has less violent crime than the US, not to forget stricter gun laws than the US. While I think Portugal is a good example I don't think it is an exact comparison with the US.

 

The rifle simple "looks" menacing. A .30-06 (which is a hunting rifle) is a far more powerful rifle.



This can have extended magazines and be far more deadly than a .223.



Here are the caliber comparison charts.

 

Considering nearly every one of them still has time in the military when they leave, almost all of them. Also, 1967 ≠ 2012.

 

These are also the exact same rifle, both at semi-automatic .22LR... or the weakest rifle caliber, yet one looks like an assault rifle. Looks mean nothing, caliber and rate of fire are everything.

 

Which ones were used in the shooting??

 

Sorry about that b-bob, but I felt the need to point it out- he is likely a teenager who just lined up some ammo from "bigger" to "smaller" by diameter & made conclusions without any knowledge of the cartridges' energy, ballistics, effects of longer vs. Shorter barrels on velocity, the difference 3x the velocity makes upon impact etc.

Apologies for the derail.

 

I thought he used handguns, so I'm not sure why everyone is so hooked on the .223, which comes in many forms

 

In a closed quarters situation the 2 handguns were far more dangerous than the .223. A .223 is a useless weapon in closed quarters as it is far too long and the gun typically has a very strong kick causing it to be inaccurate. But WTF do I know, I've only breached about 260 buildings in the Middle East and been a SWAT officer prepared to deal with these types of situation for a couple years....


WTF are we arguing about weapon caliber and the like in this thread? The blood is still fresh and we got a bunch of activists from both sides of the isle having a dick measuring contest when they should be expressing their sympathies and shutting the F up.