Continuing from previous post since I can't edit it. - Hears about trade rumors to Houston; Dwight says "I do not want to go to Houston" - Is told to waive his opt out clause or he will be traded to Houston; Dwight decides to wave his decision to opt out the final year - Gets traded to Lakers; Dwight says "If I was traded to Houston, I would play out my contract and leave." The guy DOES NOT WANT TO BE HERE. He didn't change his mind when things were complete **** in Orlando. He won't change his mind no matter how bad things get in Laker land. He simply does not want to be here. The sooner you idiots get this fact through your thick skulls, the sooner we can move on from the pipe dream that is Dwight Howard. Let's focus on people that we can get who actually WANT to play with Harden, because let's face it... if a star is coming to the Rockets, it won't be because of Lin.
Just curious, what do you Laker fans see as the ending of the movie? Lin leaving Sampson/McHale to sign with the Lakers at the end of the 3 year contract and winning a ring for you guys after Kobe/Nash retires and you enter retooling with Howard and free agent Love? Pick and roll with Lin/Howard could be interesting, though I think Morey wanted that to happen on the Rockets during this past off-season.
as some of posters here said earlier, a lot earlier: thank goodness, his contract is only for 3 years.
This seems like a good time to re-watch this video: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2WDK6NCsxzo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> I posted this in another link too, to double the exposure. How it's not an infraction of any forum rule.
So do you guys have some fantasy where Lin leaves Houston for a big market city like LA where he leads the team to a championship? I mean if that's what you guys really want you could set up camp right here and start theorizing, why wait 3 years! http://forums.lakersground.net/viewforum.php?f=1
There was discussion on their forum about Lin and a lot don't want him. They think he's overrated, probably because one of his big games last season was against the Lakers. http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=153654&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=600
If he is continuously getting no respect from the coaches, I hope he won't last by the end of 12/22/2012 (this happens to be the END OF THE WORLD day). ha.
Currently, he is still a Rocket and so we'll be here to support him. I really don't care where he went. If the team doesn't trade him or he re-sign with the Rockets after 3 years, then we, or at least myself, will remain here. Whether you like it or not, I don't give a damn.
I'm assuming the Lakers fans, such as the one who posted here and has probably been a Lakers fan for years, is already on sites like that one, even if they are watching what Lin is doing in Houston since they started following him after the Linsanity Lakers game in NY. Lots of NBA fans follow their home team (in this case the Lakers for that guy I'm replying to) as well as players they like on other teams. Many NBA fans either follow multiple teams, or home team + non-home team players (if you want them to call them player fans in addition to being their home team fans). There's a reason League Pass allows you to follow more than one team. It wouldn't surprise me if many of the Lin fans here who are newly following the Rockets are also following either the Knicks or the Lakers. Most of them are probably from NY or California. Contrary to popular belief, I don't think most of them are from Asia, since I would think that fans from there would be on their own chinese language boards instead of on Clutch. Lin had a huge following from NY from his time there. And he has a huge following form California (born in LA, grew up in Bay Area, local kid with large following even during H.S.). So most of the new Rockets fans who followed Lin onto Clutchfans are probably Californians or New Yorkers. Many of the LOH's who followed to troll here are probably from NY as well.
So what you are saying is. When he leaves, you leave too right? Doesn't sound like you guys care much about the team at all.
Will I leave when Lin leaves? good question. It all depends on how Rockets treated him. If they don't treat him like the way that a starting pg should be treated, why I stay as a fan of Rockets when he leaves? If they respect him as a starting pg and develop him to a better player, or may be a legitimate all star and eventually lead the team to success or competing for or better yet win a championship. I don't see there is any reason why I can not be a Rocket fan when he retired or leave for other team. Can anyone have multiple favorite players and favorite teams? I am not sure if you have a favorite player of your own but if you are, I would like to know how you feel when your favorite player is not respected by the coach when he plays well during the game and the the team is still leading. If you don't, I admire you putting the team above any one player. However, people have the right of their own opinions and their own liking. I rarely argued or just praised Lin and bashed other posters, players, or even the coach when people calling his head after he benched Lin during the Dallas game and wind up losing the game. You may not dislike Lin and may even support him, but you are definitely hate Lin fans. Please take a step back and look at all these so called LOF threads. Its only a small handful of Lin fans posting over sensitive comments and sometimes overly passionate about their favorite player. But don't discount that there are a handful of them could be LOH (or Melo fans I may say) coming from NY to try to stir up this forum. Finally, if what I posted annoys you or the team, please disregard it all along and I would do the same going forward. Good day.
BS.. He changed his mind every week about the Orlando situation. One week, I'm never leaving Orlando. The next week he wants Stan Van Gundy gone or he is leaving. Or he demands a trade to NJ/Brooklyn Nets to play with DWill. Or he stated there were no problems in the locker room and then there is a story he almost came to blows with Jameer Nelson. Its DHoward, not exactly the cut out poster of someone who is true to his word. Were your statements before the James Harden trade or after? Were these statements before the Laker's struggles or after. If your not Dwight Howard, then you don't know his mindset. This guy is constantly changing his mind...
I have a ton of favorite players, and 2 of them did not have an amicable departure with this team. The organization doesn't do what they think is best for a player, they do what is best for the organization. It's that simple.
Lifelong loyalty and attachment to a team aren't instantaneous. Could Lin fans become lifelong Rockets' fans? I think they can. But not if they feel that Lin didn't get a fair shake with the rockets. If Lin was playing for the Rockets for a couple of years, Lin fans would grow more and more attached to the Rockets over time and might remain Rockets fans even if he leaves gets traded. This would be the case whether Lin plays good or bad. I was really liking the knicks and beginning to grow a fondness for them. But the way Woodson treated Lin, followed by Melo and co and finally Dolan, and then finally all the knicks trolls who came here to bash him while pretending to be 'rockets' fans, left a really bad taste in my mouth. Right now, I really like the Rockets (how can you not?) they are a fun young team and I could easily see myself becoming a fan for a long time, but not if Lin continues to be treated poorly. It's just human nature. You'll find that this kind of thing is par for the course for any sports club that has a chance for truly global appeal.
You are really reaching here man and it's sad reading your post. You're right, he did flip flop on a lot of things, but that wasn't what I was talking about and you know that. Even when **** went south in Orlando, at no point in time has he EVER, EVER changed his mind about going to Houston. He may have flip flopped about staying or leaving the Magic, but he has never, ever flip flopped about wanting to come to the Rockets. Stupid fans and their NBA 2K pipe dream trade fantasies... Real life doesn't work that way, especially for the Rockets.
Paradoxically, I think the best way to "Free Lin", is to turn him into a bench player. It is a crime to basketball to not run the offense through Lin when Harden is on the bench. Lin could be the perfect instant offense off the bench, and a better version of what Barea gave the Mavs during their title season. This solution seems to be obvious to me, and Lin's performance in Harden's absence seems to all but confirm it. Am I missing something in regards to why this has not happened or been talked about more?
False equivalence. You want to compare a guy on a 8 million dollar salary, who was brought to be the starting point guard of the team and who is supposed to be in the teams' long term plans to D-Mo and T-Jones? Are the coaches handling those two badly also? Perhaps so. There are countless players who could do a lot if their coaches had more faith in them. That was the case for Lin before Linsanity. It doesn't really justify their treatment of Lin though. Do you think that D-Mo or T-Jones are being handled well? I could also write a long post about how it's an invalid comparison. But when you make this kind of comparison it makes me realise that perhaps we are speaking two entirely different languages and maybe there's no point in trying to communicate.
