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Luck vs. RG3

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by SK34, Dec 2, 2012.

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LUCK or RG3

  1. Luck

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  2. RG3

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  1. bigtexxx

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    I just watched this video. That was disgusting.

    I've always admired RGIII as a person and a player. He does things right, was raised right, represented Baylor well (and I can't stand Baylor), did well with his academics and is a good role model.

    Then this clown comes on and says he doesn't represent urban culture enough? That's disgusting. And what exactly would he need to do to fit in better? Start speaking poor English, getting a bunch of tattoos? Making it rain in the strip club? Dating a Kardashian? That's not exactly a culture to look up to in my opinion.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    I'm going to wait and see what race Andrew Luck marries before making my determination.
     
  3. A_3PO

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    You probably don't have to wait. She was a gymnast at Stanford. Luck is definitely a white boy.
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  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Definitely not a cornball white man.
     
  5. G Zus Kryst

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    351 Att vs 537 Att.....Colts hav no team........they need Luck to do everything. RGIII has 1 of the best oline in nfl......can pick an choose when to throw....3rd leading rusher in nfl.......ur comparison is the worst.......ever.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    So Luck being a ballhog makes him better?
     
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  7. G Zus Kryst

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    ball hog......lol........nice
     
  8. G Zus Kryst

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    QB on third and forth down
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    QB on third and forth down run or pass
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  9. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Glad you finally decided to start speaking english

    but you are wrong, RG3 plays behind a WORSE O-Line, and he makes them look WAY better than they are

    advanced stats prove im right and you are WRONG


    http://wp.advancednflstats.com/teamOL.php

    as you can see RG3 plays with one of the 5 worst O-Lines in Football, he can get away with his O-Line sucking because he has a quick release/delievery of the football.. Aaron Rodgers like
     
  10. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Isnt RG3 9 for 11 on 4th downs this year... the best mark in the NFL
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    Maybe RGIII has fewer attempts because so many of them go for 50 yd TD's?
     
  12. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    These Stats are pointless

    The Redskins are a running team under Mike Shanahan, if RG3 was asked to throw more im sure he would do it more effiecently than Luck. Even in College RG3 rarely threw intercerptions. He is just smarter with the football than Luck at this stage of their careers. You throw at 3rd down conversions, but fails to mention that the Skins are second to the Packers at converting first downs on 1st and 2nd downs.

    Aaron Rodgers and RG3 are almost similar in so many ways its SCARY
     
  13. G Zus Kryst

    G Zus Kryst Rookie

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    lol......football outsiders + profootball focus > ur link......ur blind...or dumb


    15. Washington Redskins
    26. Indianapolis Colts
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/24/offensive-line-rankings/
    13 WAS
    24 IND
    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
     
  14. G Zus Kryst

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    luck 164 att 47%.........RGIII 130 att 37.7%..............numberz > ur assurances
     
  15. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    RG3's Draft Profile

    http://footballfanspot.com/robert-griffin-scout

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    Robert Griffin

    QB

    Baylor

    6-2 223

    Draft board overall prospect rank: #2

    Draft board overall quarterback rank: #2

    Overall rating: 98 (elite prospect)

    40 time: 4.41

    Games watched: TCU/Baylor, Texas A&M/Baylor, Oklahoma/Baylor

    Positives

    · Amazing athlete

    · Holds high school state records in hurdling

    · Michael Vick esque showing at The Combine (including 4.41 40)

    · Intelligent kid who graduated Baylor in 3 years, working on masters

    · High character, well brought up

    · Excellent leader who led the rebuilding of a program

    · Charismatic face of the franchise

    · Cerebral quarterback

    · Deserving Heisman winner as a junior (over Andrew Luck)

    · Excellent production as a junior, better than Andrew Luck (72.4%, 10.7 YPA, 37/6)

    · Won a lot of shoot outs

    · Won a lot of games his team had no business winning

    · Defining win against Oklahoma

    · 10-3 record as a junior

    · Amazing deep ball arm strength

    · Cannon arm

    · Can make every throw

    · Quick release

    · Succeeded in spite of a terrible offensive line (27 sacks in 2011)

    · Able to evade pressure and scramble for big gains (over 600 yards rushing in all 3 years as a starter)

    · Looks to throw first, run as a 2nd option

    · 3 year starter

    · Hard worker who improved his throwing ability mightily from 2010 to 2011

    · Gunslinger mentality (this can be a positive and a negative)

    Negatives

    · Lack of Pro Style experience

    · Only one year of elite production

    · Was a mere 2nd/3rd rounder before this season (one year wonder?)

    · Lacks elite accuracy (in comparison to Andrew Luck)

    · Lacks elite decision making (in comparison to Andrew Luck)

    · A tad undersized at 6-2

    · Smaller frame (6-2 223) could lead to injuries at next level given how much he runs

    · Injury history (missed most of 2009, also suffered a concussion last season)

    · Needs to learn to feel the pressure better

    · Holds the ball weird

    NFL Comparison: Poor man’s Aaron Rodgers

    I’m not saying Robert Griffin will be as good as Aaron Rodgers. I’m just saying that he reminds me of Aaron Rodgers. Watching him throw deep strikes to Kendall Wright reminds me of Aaron Rodgers do the same to Greg Jennings. Both have amazing deep accuracy 10-15+ yards downfield. Both are athletic and mobile, though Rodgers didn’t ever run a 4.4. They have similar size and like Rodgers, Griffin will have to learn to slide in the NFL to avoid injuries, but like Rodgers, Griffin is a smart kid so I doubt don’t his ability to do so. They even had similar stats this season as Rodgers won the MVP and Griffin won the Heisman.

    Aaron Rodgers wasn’t the most polished prospect coming out of California and he fell to the 24th overall pick. Griffin won’t fall that far, but he isn’t the most polished prospect either, at least when you compare him to Andrew Luck. His pocket presence, accuracy, and decision making are things that need some work. They’re not bad, they’re just not elite.

    Rodgers really benefited from 3 years on the bench behind Brett Favre. Griffin won’t get that luxury, but he probably won’t need it. I think Andrew Luck will be the better quarterback right away because he’s more polished and experienced in a Pro Style offense (he also has 2 years of elite production to Griffin’s 1). However, long term, it wouldn’t surprise me too much if Griffin ended up the better pro. Either way, I think both will be legitimate franchise quarterbacks in the NFL who deserve to go #1 and #2 overall.

    When comparing Luck and Griffin, a frequent comparison is that Luck is the smart one and Griffin is the athletic one. While there’s some truth to this, I find this to be a lazy comparison. Yes, Luck is smarter. He called most of his team’s plays in the huddle or at the line of scrimmage in a pro style offense and got a 3.5 at Stanford. And yes, Griffin is more athletic. He was an all-state hurdler and had a Michael Vick esque Combine. However, both are extremely smart and athletic. Luck also had a nice Combine, while Griffin graduated from Baylor in 3 years and is pursuing a Masters.

    The main difference I see between the two is that Luck has 2 years of elite statistical production in a Pro Style offense, while Griffin has 1 in a non-Pro Style offense. Griffin has elite arm strength and above average accuracy and decision making. Luck has above average arm strength and elite accuracy and decision making. Both are likable kids, winners, competitors with all the intangibles. Both will make great quarterbacks in the NFL
     
  16. A_3PO

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    You have no idea. Try actually watching the Redskins. RG3 runs and scrambles for his life. He's been sacked 28 times and hit countless others. Makes me cringe.

    The day RG3 gets decent pass protection and an average receiving core, it will be over.
     
  17. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    RG3 and Russell Wilson are having better years than Luck
     
  18. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    LOL the media is heavily supportive if Luck, so of course they are gonna blame other parts of the team for his horrible numbers, they both have terrible offensive lines, but Luck holds the ball a little too long, and struggles againist the blitz. Teams know they can rattle him when they send a pass rush. RG3 has the numbers againist the blitz in the NFL at the top with Aaron Rodgers
     
  19. G Zus Kryst

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    by design an bad decizions.......shanny and rgiii need to do a better job wit that...
     
  20. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Its not by design the skins o-line is trash, their right tackle Polumbus might be the worst O-lineman in all of football. They have several players on that line( excluding Trent Williams) that would be practice squad players on any team. The Skins have been hit with injuries hard this year EVERYWHERE, so they are improvising
     

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