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[ClutchFans] Jeremy Lin after Rockets 101-89 win over Celtics

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. Alex L.

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    Coach was lying through his teeth. If you check the game log, Toney didn't start "playing so good" until there was only 3 minutes left in the game. Before that, Celtics got as close as five points.

    Lame excuses after the fact like these makes me really wonder what his real reasons were.
     
  2. Akim523

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    Decent job!? You meant 2 years of no playoffs appearance? Or you are talking about his own losing record as a coach?

    He's getting what he deserves.
     
  3. meh

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    starter =/= star. Stars don't get taken out. Starters get taken out all the freaking time.
     
  4. Jas

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    Couldn't agree more.
     
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    LOL. This is all just very interesting. Does anybody have a break down of exactly what when down in the fourth quarter that made McHale say that Douglas was playing so good?
     
  6. DreamWeaver

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    So in your opinion, a proven starter needs to be cuddled while a rookie starter has to find his own way around. Your logic seems to be a bit faulty.

    Normally you save your hand holding for the rookies and let the veterans figure things out on their own.

    Whatever McHale is thinking, he is not thinking.
     
  7. RedEyesKirby

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    Look, I'm very happy tonight cause Harden did absolutely fantastic. But also as a new Lin fan, this is really saddening. You don't just bench someone who dished 7 assist, locked Rondo down, and went 2-6 because your backup was playing "great" (No he wasn't until the final minutes).

    I was talking with a lot of people today about Harden's game, we had Miami fans, Lakers fans, Timberwolves, GSW, etc. very diverse, and pretty much everybody thought the same thing. And that is you have a huge potential upside PG here, you don't just dish out 38 and 7 against the Spurs as a fluke. If developed properly can be with Harden to lead Houston into championships in the future. Benching him at the 4th q is such a mess.

    But I'm happy Harden showed his swag tonight, awesome euro step. Having mix feelings though on the issue with Lin.
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    Wait for it....Bingo.
     
  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    I wish I was good at digging this stuff up but I'm not, you can choose not to believe what I said if you want.

    But yea, he would. It also depends on what you mean by a "Good" game, Lin was having a modest game, it wasn't a superb game in which he is immune from being benched.
     
  10. DreamWeaver

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    I wasn't even remotely implying that Lin was in Howard's class. :rolleyes:

    TD did not shine in the 4th quarter in such a way that would make Lin completely worthless in comparison. Do you think otherwise?
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    I'm talking about the last couple of games. The hate he has been getting for them isn't deserved. That is what I meant, and I am a pretty big Mchale critic, just not an unfair one.
     
  12. Alex L.

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    Not true. I, for one, is starting to question McHale's integrity. But I'm also a "nobody"... So maybe your statement is true after all :p

    I'd like to believe it's his intelligence that is flawed. The coaches don't have the benefits like the fans who get to watch the game on TV, close up, replays, slow motions, running commentary... I doubt if McHale saw the two blocks that Lin made. Or the non-calls that ended up as TOs on the stat sheet.

    I'm just not sure how much longer I can give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
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  13. GoRockets!

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    I agree. McHale has to be very careful about the message that he is sending. Isn't that the exact reason Lowry got p***ed that as a starter he didn't get enough play mins and respect from McHale ?
     
  14. Akim523

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    So as I expected, you pulled that crap out of your behind, typical.

    Lin was playing good D, getting teammates involved and he started to hit his shots. Him and smith's pick n roll was unstoppable which brought us back into the game from celtics 13-2 run. By the time Lin was taken out the team was winning by 6, they were down by 5.

    Toney douglas didn't even make any shots until 8mins into the 4th qtr.
     
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    Maybe it is starting to become apparent that McHale just thinks Douglas is a better player. That is why Lin is benched quickly for every mistake he makes, why he does not play the entire 4th quarter in crunch games, and why he keeps on saying Douglas is playing good defense (when he is not ) or that Douglas was having a great game (when he was not). Lin is starting to get benched earlier and earlier in the 1st quarters of the game. I think if he could avoid the controversy McHale would have benched him already.
     
  16. Alex L.

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    Smart @$$ ;) I saw that post before I posted. It is what it is. I'm not going to avoid using that word because someone was expecting it. Maybe he was expecting it because he was thinking of it himself?
     
  17. Alex L.

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    The play by play says otherwise:


    http://www.nba.com/games/20121214/BOSHOU/gameinfo.html
     
  18. DreamWeaver

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    No one is going to call McHale a great coach. His past track record pretty much summed it up. 39-55 as coach for Minnesota and we hired this guy to replace Adelman. :mad:
     
  19. LosPollosHermanos

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    Feel free to see it that way, I'm not going to bother arguing anymore.
     
  20. Akim523

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    People don't hate him because of a couple of games, his track record shows he's not a good coach, that's why fans hate him. He's rotation has been questionable ever since day 1, he has failed to lead the rockets into the playoffs years in a row. He was the only guy in the front office wanted Royce white, etc.

    Benching Lin is just a trigger, everything he has done so far will all add up to justify the criticism he's been getting from the fans.
     
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