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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LCII, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. Dei

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    Did I say it wouldn't, as affirmative wouldn't?? Go back to my post.

    Harden is in a totally different situation with Thunder. He was the 3rd option.

    If coaches can't figure this out with Harden and Lin duo, let them figure out on their own. I mean why aovid the issue of team chemistry? That was my point of the post.
     
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    your sarcasm stinks and so does everything coming out of your mouth
     
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    players slump as shooters...whats the percentges over the last 6 or 7 games? That would be interesting. Theres no question is number is going up....hes almost at 40 and he was what 37% 3 weeks ago?
     
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    This is 20 games in the season.

    We are the youngest team in the NBA.

    We had the biggest roster turnover. Nobody has played with anybody here. This isn't a case of integrating a player into a team, it's forming a new team entirely.

    McHale has been away from this team longer than he has been with them.

    So, complaining about chemistry issue this early with so many factors involved is pointless. Look at the Lakers, they can't get their crap together and their team is full of veterans.
     
  6. iconoclastic

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    I think that the Rockets would win more games than you think with Lin as the primary option. He would elevate the games of Smith, Asik, and Delfino, just to name a few guys that have shown to have good chemistry with Lin, whereas Harden doesn't really elevate the games of anyone else. Harden is a great #2, while Lin is a better and improving #1 to me. Lin has also proven last season that he's clutch and a good leader in crunch time. With Lin shouldering the load and spreading the love on offense, his teammates will be more energized and galvanized on defense. Shooting guard defense is more important than point guard defense anyway.
     
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    He couldn't get that 10th assist because he can't pass to himself.


    Final score from Lin, Texas at the Lin Center

    Houston Lins 244 - Boston Celtics 91.
     
  8. roxxy

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    Hey how are you thanks for the response. I have some thoughts.

    I totally agree with you he does need to improve his spot up shooting. But here are some details. Lin came into this season not expecting Harden to be here, playing the Harden role. So this offseason what did he likely work on a lot? His PNR game primarily with some shooting, strength & conditioning, ball handles, defense. He probably worked on a little bit of everything but he focused the most on PNR.

    Has there been improvements in these aspects of Lin's game. Hell yes. He is up from 67th to 47th as the PNR ballhandler. Lin as the PNR ball handler his PPP is 0.77 his FG% is 42% & his 3FG% is 50% & he runs the PNR 29% of the time.

    His spot up shooting ranking has increased as well believe it or not. Lin as a spot up shooter his PPP is 1.01 & he ranks 98th in the NBA. His FG% is 40 & his 3fg% is 36. Lin is the spot up shooter 27.4% of the time. Last year he was 149th in the NBA with a PPP of 0.94 and the %time was 14.3. So despite being a spot up shooter a lot more than last year he is still scoring at a higher PPP than last year.

    Let me give you hardens spot up shooting numbers. Harden is a superior spot up shooter to Lin in almost every way.His PPP is 1.05 & he ranks 78th in the NBA. His FG% in spot ups is 41.2 & his 3FG% is 44. Harden is the spot up shooter 7.9% of the time. So does it make sense that the inferior spot up shooter is spotting up about 3 times more than the superior spot up shooter?

    Overall, Lin last year was mediocre as a spot up shooter this year he is decent - good. I think the issue is deeper than his spot up shooting. I don't think he is comfortable in that role permanently. And I think him being misused is a problem. I would also imagine that he is frustrated that he worked on a skill set this summer that isn't being used sufficiently because of an unforseen trade. Do I think he hates the coaches hell no. But is he frustrated with the entire situation yes. And frankly I wouldn't want a player on my team that is coasting & was not frustrated.

    Just a few thoughts.
     
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    I just feel like there were otherwise not enough reason for Mahale to bench your team's long commitment and most popular player for the whole fourth quarter in both the Marvs' and this home game. It's gonna be something bigger than just not playing well -- after all, if the problem is that Lin and Harden don't mesh well, the only way to solve it is to have them play more time. Barring that McHale has anything personal against Lin, which I highly doubt given that he seems like a player's coach, it must be that Lin is not going to be with Rockets much longer.
     
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    our pg isn't as good as Ray Allen when spotting up for a shot, let's trade him! good job coach, you've expose the fraud. congrats!
     
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    There should be 4 sub-forums in the basketball forum:

    Nba dish
    The garm
    Nba draft
    Jeremy Lin
     
  13. Alex L.

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    When Clutch the Bear sees the bball more than your $5M PG, something's wrong.

    Trade Lin for a few headbands, sign Mike Bibby for the vet minimum. You save money from Lin's contract and save money for the headbands. And Bibby can shoot 3's.
     
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    A good coach would alter his system to accommodate to his players' strengths, sadly this team has McHale. :(
    It's just sad how little imagination this coaching staff uses to run the offense. Give Harden the ball and everyone be ready to shoot 3's. It's like Mike Brown and his stubborn offense who marginalized Nash like he was Toney Douglas. Just pure laziness from the coaches.
     
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    a trade with the Lakers makes sense for both teams. i'm not for it but i could understand if it goes down. Rockets gets another pf to add to their collection and D'antoni gets Linsanity back. if it goes through, that would mean the Lakers don't see Nash being completely healthy for the whole season
     
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    He isn't even as good as TD. That's his problem.

    "our pf isn't as good as Tim Duncan when posting up for a shot, let's trade him! good job coach, you've expose the fraud. congrats!"

    So I guess that means Patterson is great just not as Tim Duncan. That is not how it works. Lin is a terrible shooter, whomever you compare him too.
     
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    this is why you shouldn't argue with the hater "Dei", better yet just ignore the fool. hater's gets cornered and they often forget what they are arguing about.. starts throwing out irrelevant chit
     
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    I agree with you Lin should have the ball in his hands running the PNR a lot more than Harden & harden should be situated a lot more on the wing. I do think that the team would continue to be successful. And if Lin struggles one game we can always put Harden on the ball more. Lin isn't playing at his best at all & it isn't because he lacks ability but because he is doing way to much of what he is bad at & not enough of what he is good at. And the fact that we have a player, Harden who could play off the ball thereby allowing Lin to do what he is best at is awesome. But unfortunately the coaching staff doesn't see things this way. Frankly I have gotten used to it.

    But unfortunately what you & I think really doesn't matter right. The coaches clearly disagree. They are more comfortable with Harden in that role. Just a few thoughts.
     
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    wow. you've actually put a lot of thought into this one :eek:
    5 stars post right here guys!
     
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    LOL at this. The LOF'ers have a problem with amount of touches Lin gets in Houston with that oh so selfish James Hardin and the Waycist Kelvin Mchail. Good luck in LA folks. You guys deserve that soap opera team, and their fans deserve you as well.
     

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