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Schaub the ELITE

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Hey Now!, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. DonkeyMagic

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    quite a well thought out, articulate and intelligent response. Thank you.
     
  2. pgabriel

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    i don't know if you're serious or not but if schaub wants to take his game to the next level and not be rattled by intense situations, he needs to study peyton, because he's never going to get over it physically.
     
  3. macalu

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    peyton manning's average numbers during the regular season when he's usually feasting on bad teams:

    141-67 W-L
    97.4 QB rating


    Manning's average post season numbers when he's playing much better competition:

    8-9 W-L
    88.3 QB rating

    wanna know what his QB rating was the year the Colts won the Super Bowl? A paltry 66.8. So this notion that the elite QBs always step up their game is BS. they usually don't do as well when they face a competent defense. right now the Texans aren't a competent defense. so unless they fix, Peyton may carve them up. But Schaub is capable of tearing up a bad defense too.
     
  4. Nimo

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    If you consider elite to be the top 5 QBs in the league, then Schaub is not (Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, and Roethlisberger).
    Could he be? Yes.
    Is it likely? No.
    Do the Texans need him to be elite before they can go to a SB? No

    Brady, Manning, Rodgers,
     
  5. pgabriel

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    they don't need him to be elite, they don't need him not to fold. there is a differenc
     
  6. Nimo

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    I still don't think he's folded. The team has folded in the two losses this year. It's dumb to put the losses on him. Plus QB have bad games in primetime too. Manning threw 3 INTs in the 1st half vs Atlanta. Rodgers had 0 TDs in the Seahawks debacle game earlier this year. Both on MNF.
     
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  7. macalu

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    Rodgers also stunk it up a few weeks ago on Sunday Night Football against the Giants. so 2 out of 3 times he's sucked in prime time.
     
  8. pgabriel

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    look guys i can understand supporting your team, your qb, especially a guy like matt schaub, he's very likable, and he's a good qb, he's above avg. so this may be splitting hairs, but i saw this game coming from him and that wasn't hard. i had to swallow my pride and be one of the only people take ronny's thread seriously because i agree with ronny.

    if you want to talk about team, who is the guy for the texans that will pull the team aside when the game is getting out of hand. matt schaub is just a player on this team, he isn't the leader. that's not an issue with me because the leader doesn't have to be your qb. but they needed that guy monday and they don't have one.
     
  9. DonkeyMagic

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    There goes another superfan making excuses for Schaub...: please note my sarcasm.
     
  10. pgabriel

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    its not an insult, i understand the support for the guy. you've been very sensative today, i'll make sure the flowers get there
     
  11. josephnicks

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    schaub apologists sure do love those numbers.. how does someone figure that posting mannings playoff numbers is an aid for their pro-schaub argument? schaubers is 1/4th the qb peyton is now. we all know the playoffs are a different animal. if not for brady, peyton has a few more superbowl appearances under his belt.

    a spade is a spade.. schaub is a spade. keep posting his regular season numbers like they mean anything. pats/steelers/ravens fans know reg season means jackshiit, keep posting those numbers tho...
     
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    Not to mention Peyton's QB rating in the postseason of their SB run was 70.5 with a 3:7 TD:INT ratio.
     
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    Did Peyton carry his team in the 06 playoffs, because using the eyeball test shows the Colts defense decided to start doing their job.
     
  14. macalu

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    actually i'm a proponent of the theory that football is a team game, while you seem to think all you need is a great QB. Schaub is the least of our problems.
     
  15. DonkeyMagic

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    It's not about being sensitive. It's just about hearing you throw random "arguments" out.

    First you said he was average, now you say he's above average/good.

    Then you say he gets rattled but all QBs do..then you say he has to get rid of the ball faster like peyton. Well 1) he isn't peyton 2) some plays take time to develop... Schaub often didn't even have time to set up and throw because of the pressure the defense was getting. 3) all QBs get rattled when they don't have time...even peyton.

    You just seem to be all over the place with your criticism and honestly, none of them have been very good. Look, Schaub has plenty of faults to not like so pick a legitimate one to complain about. Don't just throw out a bunch of cliches

    And what makes it even worse is that the NE game wasn't/isn't even all on his shoulder, yet you are somehow only focusing on him in that game and talking about him folding. Obviously, the INT at the goalline was painful but that didn't cost the texans the game. And for as "bad" as he played he still managed complete almost 60% of his passes.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    actually bro i've been pretty damn consistent about the texans moving to yates. schaub is only gonna get you so far.

    but for your dumbass i'll recap

    arm avg

    total qb above avg

    big games sucks

    is that easy for your dumbass to follow. forgive me but i hate when some idiot wants to keep arguing by making the argument about you instead of the subject.
     
  17. DonkeyMagic

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    Take it easy francis. Don't get your panties all in a bunch because I asked you to actually compose a well thought out argument, which you still failed to do.

    lulz at wanting Yates.

    Thanks for being such a big baby and A-hole for finally convincing me to ignore you.

    Stay classy, and good luck on your next pee test.
     
  18. Nimo

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    Wait...what? You say move to Yates right after you blame Schaub for folding in big games. What bigger game has the Texans had than the playoff game in Baltimore? How did Yates do then?
     
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  19. Nimo

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    So regular season numbers mean nothing . But Schaub hasn't had the chance to prove himself in the post-season. No one on here is saying Schaub is as good as Manning. What is being said, is that even the "elite" QBs have had bad games in big games and in the playoffs. It happens.
     
  20. DonkeyMagic

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    so apparently you're a dumbass too. Good to see I have company ;)

    It makes not sense at all.
     

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