[BREAKING] School Shooting in Conn. at Elementary School

That would be a very interesting thread that focuses on discussion not debate.

 

Unbelievable

 

This would make a helluva lot of sense to me if we saw this happening in other industrialized countries at the same rate we have gun violence here in the United States. But we don't, so it doesn't.

 

Gasoline is always a good, powerful and cheap alternative.

 

supposed shooter? https://www.facebook.com/rlanza

 

Yeahhh, go ahead and post where I said that, don't try to make what I said into some false outrageous claim because you can't argue the point. I said he would have found another way to do it. You said he couldn't because he would start to "attract police attention with his purchases of bomb material". Which is a weak argument in itself, but the police wouldn't track his purchases if he was buying the materials to make molotovs, or any other common material that you could make destructive, now would they. Is that spelled out clear enough?

 

martial law around the corner..?

 

This, this is why I think people arguing that other things can be made is such a weak argument. I don't see chlorine bombs going off in schools in the UK.

 

Guys, stricter gun control will happen and for that I am glad. With this President and the mass shootings this year alone I see a horizon ahead and the NRA can suck my ****.

R.I.P to the babies. Out.

 

I'm sure the guy in China you posted wanted to kill as well. Kinda hard to do it without a gun, though.

This is pure rubbish, and you know it.

Give someone access to a deadly weapon, and they are more likely to use it.

Crimes are not pre-destined. The barriers we place between people and their ability to commit crimes (especially crimes of passion) have a very real effect on prevention.

 

For those who don't have facebook?

 

Regardless of the ease of making a bomb, you still have to deliver it. Maybe you strap it to your chest, walk into the room, and blow everything up. Maybe during that time, some kids can run out. Maybe furniture or other factors direct the blast toward a certain area and more kids survive with injuries. All I know is that given a choice, I'd probably choose to be in a bomb blast than take a bullet in the chest or head.

Besides, the folks arguing for a crazy guy finding a way to do it are just not being realistic. The fact that the guns are easily available have to play a part in bringing the mind around to actually doing it. If you have to make a bomb or if you have to poison kids or if you have to hit them over the head with a baseball bat, you are less likely to do it. The lure of the gun is a huge psychological accelerator to these types of folks. We always hear the argument "well, he could have done it without guns," but we never see stuff like this happen without guns. We never see a guy bludgeon 15 people to death in a matter of seconds.

Finally, many of the people making the argument against gun control by saying the guy was crazy and needed mental health assistance either don't support the funding necessary for an adequate mental health program that could reach people like this or they support politicians who refuse to support the funding or, more likely, both.

 

If access to guns aren't a problem in this country then making guns more readily available won't change things. In fact things may even get better!

Right?

 

You are comparing violent crimes to mass shootings.

The Norway attacker injured 209 people with his car bomb, made out of every day times. He murdered 77 people, in a country with strict gun laws. You can't predict or prevent these sorts of attacks. You can only hope to limit them.

Find out how many gun related deaths are linked to drugs, the vast majority of those. Decriminalizing drugs would remove a lot of those murders as well. We have a massive drug problem in this country.

 

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I think it is unwise to spread a facebook link of somebody not known to be the shooter. These things have gone wrong in the past.

 

Let's be careful about this guys. We don't want to falsely accuse somebody.

 

not just violent crimes...violent crimes WITH A GUN! and this falls into that category.

 

What about 3D printed guns? You can't stop guns anymore. Are you going to outlaw computers because someone with CAD can print a gun out of plastic? Are we going to ban CNC machines because someone can machine a gun out of billet aluminum? You're living in a dream world.

 

Sure, it's right here.

You are suggesting that molotov cocktails are as deadly of a weapon as a gun. And in doing so, trying to defend the idea of common access to guns since other weapons, which are just as deadly, are more readily available. If this is not what you are suggesting, then you suck at expressing your thoughts and writing in general.

He killed 20+ people. A molotov probably isn't going to do that. And even if it did, it probably isn't going to kill the exact people he wanted to kill. So he wouldn't use it in the first place. There is a reason that guns are the weapon of choice in the world for violence.



The argument that because I have the ability to build a bomb means gun control is worthless is insanely stupid.