Assuming this dubious hypothesis even holds some water, you ignored the fact that PatPat, who started at PF and logged 32minutes, had zero offensive rebs (yet again).
There are only TWO PFs in the leagues have average of less than 5.0 rebound per game, while playing more than 25 mins per game. Patterson is one of them.
lol, maybe he also put "power" in his staring eyes as well. His body might not scare anyone, but his eyes just might do the job.
I do think that we're being too harsh on Patterson here. When you're surrounded by Asik and Parsons, defensive rebounds really don't mean too much. HOWEVER, I'd be interested in Marcus Morris getting more PT. He rebounds really well on the offensive end and also has a nice jumper (and much better 3 pt shot). By the way, sometimes it's easy to forget it's only his 3rd season.
It's true that the Rox employs their PF as a floor spacer, and that's because they want the lane open for the slashers to be able to penetrate and makes plays for everyone. I also think Ppat's a bit undervalued by the posters here, there's a reason he's over Dmo, Tjones, Smith and MM: it's because he's the best positional defender of the 3. However, you also can't deny that he's charmin' soft. Sure having guys like Asik and Parsons who crash and grab rebs will lower your rebounds, but it doesn't excuse his pathetic OFFENSIVE REBS and FTs, two things which would require you to absorb contact from oppponents. Harden is an automatic double team, and with Parsons and Lin getting respect from opponents the lane should be all clear for PPat to do damage. But he doesn't do that, he'll either try to post when the opponents are already set (low impact), or he'll fake and shoot a mid-range J (low impact). He doesn't go aggresively to the hole (high impact), and whenever the ball's in the air he turns around and gets set on D instead of fighting for the ball (high impact). If you want a comparison, look at it when MM steps on the court, despite sharing the floor with Parsons and Asik, MM gets his own share of rebs. He also goes to the line a lot despite having an even better 3 pt shot than PP. I think PP really needs to step up his game and prove he deserves to be the starter, because IMHO MM already took his job 3 games ago.
Indeed. Patterson is gifted with all the space in the world to take his shots. His scoring numbers are inflated, and do not reflect the impact that he has. He's the weakest point in the starting line-up right now.
Lol @ people thinking Patterson is magically going to change. Its not a button you can just turn on, it's something your born with it. Either you have that instinct or you don't.
I don't think this is an issue. The Rockets offense has Patterson mostly to spread the floor. And he doesn't have Parsons' burst at flying into grab the rebound. I know the concentration is on rebounding, but to me where Patterson truly failed are on defense, and in PnR play. He should have the skills to be a very good PnR player. And he was a pretty good defender in previous two years. To me those matter much more than rebounding. As a team, the Rockets rebound very well.
He shows flashes and that's frustrating. That block he had in the first quarter last night was pretty sick defense.
This guy is going to be the perennial Clutchfans GOAT undeservingly so. I agree his game isn't the prettiest in the world, and he's by no means a Charles Oakley type of PF, but he does so many things well that its hard to not see him having a very long career in the NBA. Much longer than the Hassan Whitesides of the NBA that most poster on here would rather play in his place. Patrick Patterson isnt going to be a star, but he's going to be a vital piece to a contending team here pretty soon. You can bank on that.
Three blocked shots out of nowhere last night, though. I'm fine with Patrick Patterson doing random Big Man Things every once in a while, as a confidence booster and an assurance that yes--you should be doing those things if you play that position. Then the Rockets can just work on trying to get him to be more consistent with his Big Man Activities.
If I'm not mistaken, Asik, Parsons, Lin and Harden are all very good rebounders for their positions. It takes away # of rebounds available. Also his taking more outside shots limited his positioning to grab rebounds. Love's rebounding # drops last year when he's on fire dropping 3's.
A case can be made for Lin, Parsons and Asik but Harden isn't that great of a rebounder, he is better then Kevin Martin but not that special. Adding to the fact that, Patterson doesn't always play with those guys on the court, he is usually never moving toward the basket after someone takes a shot. He avoids contact and rushes his own shots in the paint because of it. I used to call him a slightly taller and darker Chuck Hayes with better offense at the cost of his post defense. This season, he is playing basically as a poor man's Rashard Lewis.
Greg has been taking some of Patterson's minutes at the 4 lately and Greg does NOT play soft. Kudos to the Rockets for developing the guy.
This. I am not at all worried about his rebounding because we are a good rebounding team. Patterson is not playing as good defense as he is capable of like we saw in the previous two seasons. I don't know why. You would think now that we finally have a full time defensive presence in the middle, he would compliment very well because he's a good positional defender. I remember last season while his offense went down the drain, he was frequently there to make a clutch defensive play to save a game.
I'd like to see Dmo get some minutes at 4. I think TJ is going to be the best option eventually. He's just raw. Other than Greg, Dmo is our best post threat right now. Greg is good, but I feel he's more of a 5. If our best choices are Pat & Dmo at the 4, I'd like to see Dmo start because he can play both inside & out. Omer can also help with some of Dmo's deficiencies on D. I also think Dmo is a little scrappier than Pat. I'm tired of seeing Pat, this big buff dude, play soft. Sure, he tickles our imagination every couple of games with a couple of blocks, or 8 whole rebounds... I've seen enough though. Dmo's not going to be an enforcer, but he's going to put up a better fight in my opinion. Pat can come off the bench until he's traded or TJ is ready. Time for a change.
