So what you're saying is: Any big game we WIN = not like a playoff game Any big game we LOSE = like a playoff game I love the logic around this part of the forum.
On October 1st, he was not playing at an elite level. If he doesn't belong in the conversation with those guys, he is not elite. Those are the elite QBs in this league.
I'm interested to see what the Patriots big wins are if ours don't count. Does them beating the Texans qualify as a big win?
these fantasy dorks want to say hey look there goes brady! that's an elite qb! i remember a certain elite qb turning into tj yates when facing the ravens elite D last afc championship game, only, the defense stepped up for said qb and they moved on to the next "chapter", as some fantasy dorks like to say. if our offense didn't step up in the jags and lions games, those would have been glorious arse kickings with better performances by their qbs than brady's performance last night. Right now, every qb going up against our defense is playing at an "Elite" level. Henne, stafford and even Locker who made some throws into our last line of defense. Also, what we should all be really concerned about... I know that Capers and the Hoodie are masters of disrupting pass protection, but why is our line being blown up by sub par defenses in both pass and run blocking? We will make adjustments but it's just frustrating to watch sometimes. Like I've been saying since week one, I miss Briesel and eric.
His numbers on October 1, which encompassed his last 8 starts. The numbers in ( )’s represent his 16-game pace. Record: 8-0 (16-0) AVG MARGIN OF VICTORY: 20 ATT: 215 (430) CMP: 142 (284) %: 66 YDS: 1,835 (3,670) TD: 12 (24) INT: 2 (4) YPA: 8.5 QBR: 107.4 How would you classify that performance, if not elite? For the record, a 107.4 QBR would lead the league right now by a fairly significant margin.
Brady/Belichick have been to 5 Super Bowls and won 3 of them. No such thing as a big regular season win when you've already accomplished that much.
Yes, in a sense they got closer to the #1 seed in the AFC. No, in a sense they've been in these hyped up games before, and don't poop in their big boy pants. It's funny that the Rockets played the Spurs the same night as the Pats are the Spurs of the NFL (models of consistency, hardware to back it up).
I know you not referring to me . . . but The Denver and Ravens games IMO did not have the BIG STAGE feels Denver Game was about whether Peyton would be PEYTON or not He was not yet established as his former self . . .and was still shaky Ravens was after a horrible loss. No one is scared of Fricking FLACCO and we all felt we would have beat them in the playoffs with schaub last year The Patriots were looking like THE PATRIOTS A true test game . .. and we sh** out big boy pants Rocket River
#1, that is spread across 2 seasons. #2, those 8 games were against bad teams (aside from the Broncos game). #3, you are overrating QBR Obviously elite means something entirely different to you.
not buts, FACTS!!! Two words, READING COMPREHENSION. I not once said they were meaningless yet you are fixated on that. How about reply to what I actually said. That's how a conversation works. To remind you, I responded to your claim that they were playoff intensity games which I clearly established they are not.
WOW!!!, some people are really thick. I love your logic on a Week 3 game being equal to a Week 14 where you can cement home field and make a statement against the defending AFC CHAMPS in their house. Mind you I said make a statement not necessarily have to WIN. Schaub, Kubes Offense, and Wade Defense sure made a statement, just not the one I was anticipating. To answer your question, what I'm saying is your logic has no reason or perspective, while mine does.
Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but...Yeah but... So... the criteria *I* defined is now, in hindsight, invalid? Again, that's very convienent of you. So how should it work? Every QB is judged season to season and has no cumulative growth?... The Broncos are on an 8-game win streak - those 8 games were against bad teams (aside from the Bengals game). Does it invalidate PeePee Manning's impressive play over that stretch? Of course not. He's proven himself in past seasons, right? Which is relevant when evaluating him; irrelevant when evaluating Schaub. What else would you like to use to judge a QB? Wins? I posted those. TD/INT ratio? Posted that, too. YPA? Completion %? I'm fairly certain I didn't leave a stat unturned. It's always a "yeah, but..." with you guys. I've conceded Schaub shrinks; I've admitted he's turned in 3 poor games since this thread was created, including last night. Why in the world is it so hard for you to give any ground on your end? You are so dug in, "yeah but....." is all you can muster. On October 1, he was playing at an elite level. You can "yeah but" it to death - but you'd be wasting your energy.
not at all. i've always said, when a defense plays the way the patriots played last night ANY quarterback will look timid and hurried, look at peyton manning when he'd go up against early 2000s patriots defense. The male model used to be my favorite quarterback to watch from afar when we were going 2-14. But to act like quarterbacks can't have bad games against defenses playing out of their minds... that's just never watching football. That's when special teams has to make a play, when lester jean needs to hold on to that pass, when the defense needs to jump on the loose ball and when schaub just has to take what the defense is giving him, which he usually does.
But... FACTS!!!!!!!!!! You're establishing your own criteria and then calling it a fact, FYI. I could very easily argue last night was not playoff intesity for the Texans, who still own the best record in the conference, as well as control of the #1 seed. FACT!!!!! If they win out and finish 14-2 - how big is the NE game? (Answer: tiny.) They've played five very likely playoff teams this year - they're 3-2. Schaub was very good in two games; very bad in two others and I'm giving him a bit of pass in Chicago because of the conditions (though he didn't play well, obviously). I've said throughout not just this thread but forum that he lacks a signature win and can absolutely shrink in big games. Now, are you willing to concede two of those games where he did not shrink were Denver and Baltimore - or should we hunker down for an explosion of "yeah but"s?
