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ClutchFans Game Thread: Mavericks @ Rockets 12/8/2012

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 8, 2012.

  1. pistol111847

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    It may have seemed like Mayo was not his assignment because he was never on him. Parsons was guarding him a lot because Harden couldn't. Face it Harden is a poor defensive player.
     
  2. ag3ntgandhi

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    We deserved to lose tonight.
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    Looks like he was guarding the SF which was Jones? He definitely was not guarding Mayo at any time during the game. Parsons started on him then Douglas guarded him for most of the middle of the game.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    Alright then.

    But he wasn't guarding Mayo and it looks like was never told to. Parsons is usually guarding the best perimeter scorer, not sure why you think tonight would be different?

    If Marion was playing he would have checked Harden. Not because Collison or Jones or Mayo are bad defenders. Because Marion is a better defender than them.
     
  5. pistol111847

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    I know Lin's man was Fisher who didn't score. I asked you who was Harden's man. It's difficult to say because he doesn't play D. The probel in the 4th quarter was no interior defense (no Asik), no perimeter defense (no Lin), exhausted players and no point guard to run the offense. Hence stagnation and late in the shot clock heaves.
     
  6. pistol111847

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    That worked well didn't it?
     
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    I'd bet my butt Lin would have done better than either of them on Mayo.

    - He's quicker than Parsons
    - He's smarter and taller than TD
     
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    It's difficult to say because whoever he was guarding did not hurt them much. Admit it.

    Tony played good defense on Mayo. The problem is the Mavs adjusted. They would pick off OJ's man and put Delfino on him. Rockets just sat there and took it until it was far too late.
     
  9. pistol111847

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    However Harden as the SG really should be guarding him but can't play defense.
     
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    I totally agree. Toney is consistently a great cheerleader when Jeremy is on the floor. It's good for the team to have both PGs with slightly different strengths.

    Jeremy will get his mojo back. He seems like the disciplined type and is trying to not be a chucker. It was fun in NY but now he has to put in the hard work that all players do, as well as experience the trials and tribulations of all vets.

    Re tonight's game-- my take is that in the fourth quarter the coaches left the five on the floor because of their good chemistry and didn't want to chance tinkering with what had been going well. Timing is everything. It was stinkin' bad luck.
     
  11. pistol111847

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    First of all Mayo sat the beginning of the 2nd quarter for probably half the quarter
    Second of all as you said "they would pick off OJ's man" who was Douglas
    3rd of all TD is always getting picked off because he is a poor defender
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    No.

    There is no rule in basketball that the SG has to guard the SG. So not sure where you get that from.
     
  13. pistol111847

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    Very true but the point is as you said Parsons usually plays the SG. That is because Harden won't put the effort in on defense.
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    No, No I did not say Parsons usually plays the SG. I said he usually guards the best perimeter player. Doesn't have to be the SG, but it's usually the best wing player offensively. This is his role and how he got so many minutes last year.

    It's really how a lot of teams work. The SG is usually not known for defense, but every team has a preferred defender any ways. That is Parsons.
     
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    Seeing as how perimeter players from other teams keep having record games against the Rockets maybe it's time to change that strategy - you think??? Their whole defensive strategy and effort is obviously terrible. So Parsons couldn't guard him and they put 6'2" TD on 6'4" Mayo when the stats show TD is not even as good a defender as JLin. Of course Harden is 6'5" and they can't have him guard Mayo?? I guess Jordan, Wade, LeBron, Kobe wouldn't guard the other teams hot player either now would they??
     
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    Also if Parsons can't guard his man and is bricking up his shots why do they yank Asik and Lin??
     
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    What perimeter players? Parker? Kobe? Mayo? Lillard had some good games, I guess there is that. All those other guys have been lighting it up no matter the opponent.

    With that said. No, not all the time. Why do you think the Heat got Battier? Lebron is a excellent defender but you don't want your best offensive player chasing a guy around and trying to lock him up. Yeah sometimes at the end of games these players will go on them for a few possessions...but the entire game? You remember Battier was on HArden for the Heat game? Lebron guarded him the last possession or so...the Lakers still have Artest and Kobe did not guard Harden for most of that game either.

    Any ways, Jordan had this guy named Scottie Pippen. He was a ....alright defender :p
     
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    I smell a trade coming for JLin and Asik. Bank on it!
     
  19. pistol111847

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    hey JayGoogle - don't get me wrong - I respect your knowledge but I'm just frustrated because we blew a very winnable game by probably the worst coaching I've seen since I played high school bball. You've got to admit the coaches blew it and hopefully with this loss they'll review the tapes and see the light. I don't have much hope for this but sometimes miracles happen.
     
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    Anyways Jordan was a great defender. I'm not talking the whole game - but to have TD guarding the top perimeter player in crunch time is a recipe for failure. (see Rockets vs Portland, Rockets vs Dallas, more to come...)
     

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