It's pretty we're a better team when Toney Douglas is the primary ball handler.

TD (the real TD) is shooting 33% from the field this year

 

Great news! I used Allegro's scaling for Usage Percentage on Greg Smith. Currently, Greg Smith's per 36 min stats are 19.2 points and 10.9 rebounds per game and his USG% is only 17.5%. But if I use the Allegro USG% scaling method, scaling to Melo's league high USG% of 34.3%, Greg would be averaging 28.6 points and 16.2 rebounds per 36 minutes. This is Top All-Time NBA numbers for the center position!!!!

Obviously, Asik should be the backup and Smith should be starting. Someone should contact the Rockets.

 

So basically you're redefining the term "playmaker" as someone who can score as well as pass.

By your definition, Jason Kidd was not a good playmaker, as he shot an average of .401 in his career, which is not much better than what a slumping Lin is doing right now (.385). Kidd was also bad in isolation. What a lousy playmaker he was, right?

 

When Lin does good 1 game... "his knees look healthy again, he is getting back to normal. LINSANITY!!"

When Lin struggles for most games... "his knees don't look good, maybe no explosiveness anymore, etc..."

 

I forgot to add the following:

So excuse me if I don't accept your definition for "playmaker".

 

You're welcome to live in fantasy world, but get back to me when Greg Smith has a Linsanity episode. Lin did, and that makes his adjusted numbers more credible this year.

 

lol I'm crack'n up, too funny. Coach Sampson is sure bizarre and suspicious for not playing one of the greatest player of all time more.

 

What a mutual admiration society. Why don't you two get a room?

 

He didn't "redefine" anything. He used a different method of measuring playmaker.

A point guard who ran an offense which led to an open shot for himself is just as much of a playmaker as a point guard who ran an offense which led to an open shot for his teammate. If you measure playmaking purely on assists you completely ignore plays that led to good shots for the playmaker himself.

 

In other words, he redefined the term to suit himself. In normal parlance, "playmaker" is a synonym for "passer".

 

Wrong.

 

No it's not.

A passer is a player who passes. A play maker is a player who makes plays.

 

This isn't true. Was Mark Jackson a greater "playmaker" than Michael Jordan? If you want to argue that Lin should be getting the ball instead of Harden because he's a greater "playmaker", then "playmaking" must refer to something beyond simply the ability to make a pass.

 

Let Lin initiate the first play and if it doesn't work Harden can break down the second one and hopefully score/draw fouls on rotating mismatches. Win-win.

 

How does this even relate to my point except in the vaguest of terms?

 

Oh, I see. So the Allegro USG% scaling method only works in certain situations. Please enlighten us all with exactly which situations that makes the Allegro USG% adjusted numbers credible. Obviously according to you, a Linsanity episode is what makes it credible but what constitutes as a Linsanity episode? 20+ points per game over a 5 game stretch? I am here to learn.

 

I don't think Allegro scaled rebounds (not sure about points), as rebounds, steals, blocks are pretty much usage-independent. Of course defenses will key in on you as you score more so any upscaling of points with usage need to be discounted.

 

Yeah agree with above. I guess for a guy like Asik Morey prob used his total playing time and upscaled. Asik is really the perfect case for usage independant statistics.

 

Durvasa, your analysis only works if it is for the last few seconds of a possession, when a player MUST pass or shoot. Then, most of us can agree that giving it to Harden is fine. At the beginning of a possession, you've got to give it to the better passer, who can create the best shot, because Lin doesn't have to shoot, so you don't factor in shooting in the calculations. Then if the play breaks down and you need a shot at the end of the clock, swing it to Harden. Even Jordan was used like this when his team had almost ridiculously poor PGs.