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It's pretty we're a better team when Toney Douglas is the primary ball handler.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rolyat93, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. rokit

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    what happens when the result is negative?
     
  2. SuperStar

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    Second guessing about minutes in a win is just silly. Who knows what would of happened if Lin played more. Maybe the Rockets lose, maybe they win by more who knows but winning should always overshadow such pettiness.
     
  3. rocketlauch

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    I don't think it's ridiculous to call a PG who's top 15 in the league in assists your best play-maker. In addition, I've lost track of all the times his passes have led to open shots and shooting fouls. His shooting has been garbage, but his playmaking skills have been very good, by far the best on the team.
     
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    I know exactly what he is saying, because its the same dribble delivered under a thousand different permutations by different Lin fans in every stupid thread in our now tainted forums.

    Newsflash: The only reason Lin was signed was to suck the dollar bills out of the pockets from people like you and everyone else who joined this forum Jun-Aug 2012.

    Jeremy Lin is a mediocre basketball because he is, not because of James Harden, or Kevin McHale, or Sampson, etc. etc. This isn't his team and he has earned nothing more than Toney Douglas, Greg Smith, or Carlos Delfino. If he keeps playing badly, he will continue to get benched.
     
  5. rlmjdime

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    The result wasn't negative. That's the point.
     
  6. pistol111847

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    Why is it ridiculous to call Lin the best playmaker on the team? Who leads the team in assists and assists to turnover ratio? Let me clue you in - Lin (Not Harden). This despite the fact that Harden plays more and handles the ball more.

    Obviously I am a Lin fan but I am a basketball fan first. I love to watch good team play and that is why I started to follow Lin last year in NY. After being a Knicks fan for over 50 years and seeing them win championships in 69 and 72 with tremendous team play I grew to love that style of play. With Lin as PG last year it brought back memories of those great teams. I'm not saying they were as good but it was enjoyable to watch. I'm no fan of running ISO all game and I don't think it leads to championships or even very good teams. The Utah game was a great team victory and they let Lin run the offense for a change. I really think unless they play like that the remainder of the season their potential will not be realized.
     
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    Tied for 15th in the league would make you.....wait for it....average.:grin:
     
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  8. gtmkcp

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    If you really mean that everyone needs to earn their spot, well, neither has Harden in the past few games been consistent offensively, but he still gets to play.

    Also I don't even care that Lin didn't play last night, but the person was asking why Lin didn't play when he and Harden both were struggling, but Harden got to play and Lin didn't. Not about TD playing. Why wasn't Lin playing some minutes with TD?

    Also it's more about Lin's development more than anything. Just like those posters who want to play our rookies to get them experience it would also be nice to have your starting PG also play to get experience, not talking about this game in particular, but the pattern we've seen for a while now.
     
  9. Postcall

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    :rolleyes:
    :rolleyes:
     
  10. rlmjdime

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    I'm not ready to call anyone on this team the best at anything at this point. I do not have a hardon for any player on this team. I appreciate that you have enjoyed basketball for a long time, but your responses make you seem much younger because of your unabashed love of Lin. I have been a fan of the
    Rockets for a long time as well, and have been through many ups and downs. Arguing about a hindsight, in a game that we won, is not sensible to my tastes. I'm not a fan of the ISO when it isn't being productive. When Harden dropped a ton those first two, no one was complaining. Do what works and gives you the best chance to win the game.
     
  11. rlmjdime

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    Go back and read my posts. I'm not in love with Harden. I don't care about the individual as much as the whole. That's when you know that you are blinded; when anyone that disagrees with you must be a Harden fan.
     
  12. rlmjdime

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    I understand the point about Lin not getting PT when Harden did. But, in this game it didn't matter. Maybe his knee is still jacked up and just getting a little rest. Who knows. Those are matters for the coaching staff and preaching my opinions on here does not change the reality of the situation.
     
  13. gtmkcp

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    So you work for Rocket's management? Where did he put down anyone to prop up Lin?
     
  14. gtmkcp

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    What when did I say you were a Harden fan? Projecting much? I used that as an example because that was part of the topic being discussed.
     
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    But the point is it hasn't worked since the first 2 games because teams are on to it. It's a lot easier to stop 1 man than a team which is passing the ball and finding the open man. Is that clear to you or is there something you don't understand??
     
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    Just spent some time on the Knicks forum reading about the great TD. Apparently no Knicks fan thought much of TD. It's interesting how much love TD is getting here. :rolleyes:

    Here are some excerpt:

    Quote: Originally Posted by donchris
    Douglas is Chris Duhan with a slightly better jumper. Good backup, but would never start on a good team.

    Terrible comp, Duhon is actually a pg. TD is a ball hog. They both suck though, but Ben Gordon without arms is probably a better comp.


    Quote: Originally Posted by Knicks32
    Did not play last game due to coach's decision?

    Wasn't he our Jeremy Lin of last season? Oh how the might have fallen.

    Will this boy get his step back? What's ailing him?

    Last season he looked like Jeremy Lin with the 3-point shot of Novak.

    TD wasn never our J Lin. He's always been horrible playing the PG. Where he thrived at times last season was simply just shooting the basketball. He's an undersized SG at most and a reserve on any team. Honestly, for that production I'd rather have N8 back. Especially sinceTD's on-ball defense has taken a step back as well.

    At least you could count on N8 to drive to the basket (often drawing fouls)and not settle for jumpers.
     
  17. kozmo

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    Im with you....56 years old....knicks fan for 50 years.....tired of the way they play..rockets fan because of lin...like this team and the way they play
     
  18. gtmkcp

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    TD has not been all bad for us. He has step up in certain games, which is good for us. I don't think it's necessary to put down TD here.
     
  19. gtmkcp

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    No, it didn't matter in this game, because we won, but it's the pattern I don't agree with.
     
  20. pistol111847

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    cool. I feel your pain about the Knicks. Rockets have good potential and are fun to watch most of the time.
     

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