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It's pretty evident we're a better team when Lin is the primary ball handler.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Geronimo, Dec 2, 2012.

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  1. Geronimo

    Geronimo Member

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    But are YOU Asian?
     
    #221 Geronimo, Dec 4, 2012
  2. Jetfuel

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    Good question. Yes and no. I'm actually Irish though of Indian ethnicity, though that would be S-E asian vs what most people in the west refer to as Asian which would be Chinese/Japanese etc.

    I used to find it very confusing a while back, where Asian meant Chinese. I was like... but Asia is a big continent...
     
    #222 Jetfuel, Dec 4, 2012
  3. pnr

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    If Lin were black or white, he woulda been a top 15 pick, IMO.
     
    #223 pnr, Dec 4, 2012
  4. Allegro

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    I have no intention of converting the haters. They are beyond redemption.
     
    #224 Allegro, Dec 4, 2012
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    A little info about Lin's pre NBA stint....

    High school...
    He average 15 points / 7.1 assists / 6.2 rebounds/5.0 steals/1.1 blocks

    College...2008-2009
    He’s the only NCAA Div I player who ranked in the top 10 for
    Scoring average 17.8 /Rebounding 5.5 / Assists 4.3 / Steals 2.4 / Block shots 0.6
    Field goal percentage 0.502
    Free throw percentage 0.744
    Three point percentage 0.400
    He was a consensus selection for ALL-Ivy League First Team

    Senior year 2009-2010
    Scoring average 16.4 / Rebounds 4.4 / 4.5 assists / 2.4 steals / 1.1 blocks
    Was again unanimous selection for ALL-Ivy League First team

    One of 30 candidates for John R. Wooden Award
    One of eleven finalists for Bob Cousy Award

    He was the first player in the history of the ivy League to record at least…
    1450 points – he had 1483
    450 rebounds – he had 487
    400 assists – he had 406
    200 steals – he had 225

    With all of the above.... a 3.1 GPA :cool:
     
    #225 Ynnis888, Dec 4, 2012
  6. Akim523

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    3.1? That's an asian F!
     
    #226 Akim523, Dec 4, 2012
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    That is very cool. Separately, nice earlier post as well, and I can't help but think that your personal "diversity" helps you see things from a different (and perhaps fairer) lens.
     
    #227 rocketsfan4, Dec 4, 2012
  8. Allegro

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    Actually, I did get bullied in high school, very briefly. Then I fought the bully -- and lost. He was a senior and I a freshman, and he must have outweighed me by at least 20 pounds, so my loss was not surprising. However, I made victory so expensive for him that he never bothered me again. No one bothered me again.

    So that is my advice to you: don't fear the bullies; fight them and they will go away.

    Similarly, there is no need to fear that you might make new enemies here. The vast majority of Rockets fans want Lin to be great, as that makes a championship more likely. The tiny minority of hating pinheads will hate no matter what; your duty is to fight them.
     
    #228 Allegro, Dec 4, 2012
  9. apollo33

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    ^ lol Lin fans.. my sides..
     
    #229 apollo33, Dec 4, 2012
  10. Allegro

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    Wrong. Here are the scaled statistics again:

    <pre> Lin Kidd
    Year 2012-13 1995-96
    Usage Rate 18.2 24.3
    Points** 15.2 16.0
    Assists** 9.2 9.3
    Turnovers** 4.0 3.9</pre>
    If "usage rate" was a random, arbitrary number, why do Lin's adjusted points, assists, and turnovers so closely match Kidd's corresponding stats? All three of them, at the same time?

    If you claim "coincidence", you'll have to explain why Lin's numbers were almost identical to Kidd's last season.

    Face it, Lin is tracking Kidd's career path.
     
    #230 Allegro, Dec 4, 2012
  11. Allegro

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    As I said, neither Rubio nor McMillan (your examples) had anything close to a Linsanity period. Lin did, so his potential is far higher than theirs. Apparently you didn't understand that.
     
    #231 Allegro, Dec 4, 2012
  12. Allegro

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    You realize that Lin is just starting his career? Kidd didn't have his almost triple-double seasons in his first year, or in his second year either.
     
    #232 Allegro, Dec 4, 2012
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    I wanna know how exactly you "adjusted his usage%" and how exactly his assists numbers changed because of the scaling.
     
    #233 apollo33, Dec 4, 2012
  14. Allegro

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    As I said, I have no intention of converting the haters. They will hate no matter what.

    Unlikely. The vast majority of Rockets fans want Lin to be great, as that makes a championship more likely. The tiny miniory of hating pinheads will hate, regardless. What I say makes little difference in the number of haters, but hopefully gives the majority more reason to cheer for the Rockets.
     
    #234 Allegro, Dec 4, 2012
  15. Allegro

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    Learn some math.
     
    #235 Allegro, Dec 4, 2012
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    A rudimentary understanding of algebra would be a nice start.
     
    #236 CXbby, Dec 4, 2012
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    you are so evil
     
    #237 Lihao, Dec 4, 2012
  18. rocketsfan4

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    -ouch
     
    #238 rocketsfan4, Dec 4, 2012
  19. Allegro

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    Heh, that's a better reply than mine.
     
    #239 Allegro, Dec 4, 2012
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    I think they make these comparisons to prove that he doesn't SUCK. Not saying he is as good as they are...

    You think it makes more sense to compare to Earl Watson or Mo Williams? Maybe. But it I'm not sure if it would carry as much weight.

    The draft constantly compares prospects to stars. Why? Well the star comparisons are sexier of course..but also because we are, in general, much more familiar with them.

    Maybe compare him to the Kyle Lowry and Ty Lawson's of the world? Might make more sense...
     
    #240 langal, Dec 4, 2012
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