I don't want to give up anything for Gasol, absolutely nothing. The Rockets are a young team building for the future. Gasol may help us win a few games in the short term, but I'm interested in the long term.
This. Plus, I don't even know why threads like this exist. I highly doubt the Rockets are even thinking about Pau Gasol, so what's the point of even discussing it?
Even if Gasol's tenure with the Rockets is short term. If they achieve can playoff experience with him. Then that would be good experience, development for the future. That makes adding Gasol a future looking move.
Threads like this exist because Murray tried to trade for Gasoft (and was vetoed by Mr. Hitler) as recently as last season. What's your confusion?
As high as I am on Gasol, and think he's one of the most underrated big men to ever play the game, I have to say that a Gasol acquisition would come with some caveats. I am not willing to mortgage the future for 2 years of playoff runs. They do need a more long term focus in acquiring the #2 player they need to build a contender. However, if Morey could make a deal for him without sacrificing the future of this team, I am totally ok with it. The people here calling him soft, washed up, etc. listen to the Lakers fans way too much. As of last season he was still regarded as a top 7 big man in the NBA, and that was in a system where he was criminally underused, and was constantly being blamed every time they lost a game.
I disagree bolded statement. Here is the stats from Lakers-Pacers game, tabulated by one of the Lakers fans: Kobe had 67 touches and 34 of those touches involved passes. Of those passess, 16 of them were to Gasol, 10 of them were to Dwight, 8 of them were to the rest of his teammates. In other words the rate Kobe passed the ball around: - Gasol got 47% of Kobe's passes. - Dwight only 29% of Kobe's passes. - Rest of his teammates just 24% of Kobe's passes. Howard rarely set screens; most of screens were set by Gasol. While Nash is out, most of the PG duty falls heavily on Kobe. It makes sense if you consider Kobe and Pau have played together for years and ran heavy PnR's back in 2008. That's not to say they are good at them. Kobe is a terrible PnR ball handler and Pau don't usually roll to the basket. As a result, PnR usually turned out to be pick and pass, where Pau tried to make a mid range jumper. IMO most people over emphasize on offensive skills. Pau might be most skilled OFFENSIVE PF, but he fall well short of all around skilled PF. Look around the league and you will find that offensive skilled PFs are constantly among the trading rumors, Bargnani, Pau, but when do you ever hear Garnette, Ibaka, or Duncan on the trading block??
Interesting. Might just have to do with the chemistry Kobe and Gasol have built with each other over the years. Kobe know's Gasol's spots, and hasn't really got used to playing the 2 man game yet with Dwight. However, turn on the game thats on now please. Every play the Lakers have ran so far has Gasol out to the 3 point line in the offensive set. See it for yourself. FYI, JVG just said nearly the same thing I just said about Gasol being a fit in this system because he's forced out to the perimeter as primarily a jump shooter, and also commented that he's an excellent P&R big man. So Im not the only one that see's it.
We don't know that the Lakers are looking at that deal, that's forum speculation. But he's much younger, and it saves them a ton of tax next year, even if they overpay Josh Smith. They might also use him as a 3 long term -- and amnesty Metta to save on tax. As for basketball reasons... i don't love that fit either. Between Dwight and Smith, they'd have two guys who should be scoring near the rim. He would be taking quite a few jumpers, and he's not efficient at it. And he's another guy who's pretty good at posting up, and D'Antoni wouldn't take full advantage of it. But there would be a lot of value too -- defensively, in transition, on cuts. Overall, they really need athleticism, and he brings it. Re the Rockets -- the Rockets would have to adjust their system if they got either player.
l take Asik. Not on Gasol's level yet but a better rebounder and a hustler. Fans usually root for those guys
Haha... Frankly, watching them play, I suspect he likes Kobe much more than Dwight right now. Dwight-Pau interactions on defense look weird.
I agree that Pau is a good PnR roll man. What baffles me the most is Pau isn't rolling to the basket. He rolls to the side (top of the key) and wait for his pass. It happened on the very first play against Denver. Was it by design? I am all for trade for Pau. I just don't see Mitch is seriously about trading him while Nash is still out. It will be knee jerking without seeing how Pau plays with Nash under D'Antoni.
Does not matter, man. We are built like a young team. We need extremely mobile bigs the likes of Ibaka. A young enforcer who can do it all. dude is stagnant.
My order of preference for Pf is Aldridge, then Jefferson, then Gasol, then Millsap. If either of these 4 come I'll be happy.
