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"People don't want to be embarrassed by me because of my skin color" Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocketman03, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. Billionzz

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    He got paid because he showed potential, I'm sure DM didn't pay him because he was Asian or played in NY.
     
  2. cytrynowa

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    Fame is polarizing, period. Unless you're Meryl Streep (and even then, I know a lot of people who "hate" her for her "undeserved" Oscars -- yes, I hang in strange circles LOL).

    It's amazing on my Twitter feed how many people have an opinion on Jeremy Lin, even people who don't watch games or know much about basketball.

    It's just fame. Unfortunately for Jeremy, who seems like a guy who's uncomfortable with fame, you can't undo it. You can only become a has-been or infamous, never unfamous again.
     
  3. mike_lu

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    Upon reflection, I think it's easy to settle this one.

    Just get a black player to be a candidate for the John Wooden award in college, a finalist for the Bob Cousy award, get no division I scholarship for college, be accepted at Harvard and play 4 years there, be undrafted, cut after his first season, again before his second season, and almost cut again just before his breakout game, playing for NYK in Madison Garden, put up the numbers Lin did, help the team go 7-0 in a season from his first start in a year where most counted the NKY out of the playoffs by the time he played, playing with a cast of one all-star center and 3 career back-ups.

    We already know a black athlete can get a big contract for JUST pre-season play (see Cato, Kelvin), all we need to find out is if he can get on Sports Illustrated back-to-back.

    Simple. Solved. And if something similar to this happened and that black player doesn't get his media/Sports Illustrated recognition, then let's cry discrimination.
     
  4. Naija Texan

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    Part of that is true, but it is also the Tebow factor, he was made into such a big deal by the media that other players want to show why they were drafted or to make a statement by embarrassing him rather then to be a stepping stone for Lin's career.

    Race factors in but it isn't the main issue, had he been drafted and not come out of nowhere the media buzz wouldn't have been so big last year and players probably wouldn't try as hard as they did last year. That being said, it is a sign of respect when teams and coaches game plan around taking you out of the game, although like all Rockets these past few years, refs are going out of their way to not give Lin and Harden 'superstar' like calls when they try to take it to hoop unless it is obviously a foul.
     
  5. Angkor Wat

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    I think it plays both ways. It helped him and hurt him. It hurt him after high school getting a basketball scholarship. It helped him during Linsanity as it became sort of a novelty act and everyone was talking about it.
     
  6. T_Man

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    The Media has put a huge target on his back and his expectations are past reality.

    Lin is a good guy and a decent player... My expectations of him is that he leads the team on the floor like Mo Cheeks.. So far he's doing a decent job..

    T_Man
     
  7. Easy

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    SAS has a weird definition of racism. "It's not necessary racism. It's just about people of different races being treated differently." If that's not racism I don't know what is.
     
  8. Angkor Wat

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    Umm he's talking about you saying this:


    How is that different than saying "why do people in the Asian community have small penises, can't drive and cant run the point guard position?" It's just pure ignorance and you are part of it.
     
  9. jose

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    See I get so tired of playing victim because where are you guys when Lester Hudson(who had many point explosion games last season), isn't even offered an NBA contract anymore? He's not in the NBA anymore, and I believe he's one of the only college players ever to get a quadruple double as well.

    He's black, so should everyone play victim or maybe there's just more factors than what you said? I'm sure racism was a problem in the past for him but it definitely isn't now.

    Every time something doesn't go well for me, for you, for him, for anyone, we shouldn't just cry racism about it, because more often than not it's not the case(at least in heterogeneous civil countries), and even if it were, I don't give a damn what anyone thinks, because I'm not soft.

    By the way I'm sure if Lin were super athletic(and actually, Lin is an above average athlete, but not on a super level) like John Wall or Russell Westbrook or something he'd have gotten way more attention from recruits.

    And that's the case for everyone, the more athletic players are noticed more over the skilled players even when it's foolish to do so. There are plenty of super athletes who simply suck at basketball and never develop a skill for the game. Lebron is one of the few that is amazing on both ends.

    I can't control what others think other than to preach positive things to hopefully change their ways, but if they don't, I'm not gonna cry about it and NOT move on. We're all human, that much is simple. I'll remove my sig if Lin keeps up the play he had in the Toronto game, we'll see.
     
  10. Rocketman03

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    What a crybaby.

    Maybe Lin should just start playing better.
     
  12. Rocketman03

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    This thread wasn't actually supposed to be about his game. Check the OP
     
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    When Jeremy says that opposing athletes rev up to play against him...it's true. Heck his own teammates thought they were better(ie. Machado, Douglas, Fatboy-Felton). Even players like Carmelo couldnt believe the contract that the phenomena of Linsanity got Lin. He is just verbalizing what Yao thought but never said. What people dont realize is that for a country where there are close 1.4 billion people, Jeremy Lin represent 1 Asian in a league that predominantly has blacks and whites. It is a big deal b/c he is an Asian man showing flashes of brilliance among players of equal caliber...

    For a stretch of games, Jeremy Lin proved to the world that he can not only play in the NBA, but he can be someone that can help you win. Jeremy's ascension to stardom was primarily because he played in the Mecca of basketball (MSG). And the NY media propagated the phenomena worldwide. An American born - Asian is balling in the NBA. That is a story. That is amazing, b/c it never happens. So when he says that other players dont wanna get embarrassed "by this asian kid", he is right.

    We had Yao for God sakes...when he first came...Shaq wanted to Shaq-fu him...infact Shaq went after him, and tried to embrass him...So did every player in the NBA...after a while they just came to the realization that...man...its amazing that he is the first of his kind playing at the biggest stage of basketball possible. Thats when Shaq got it. Yao was special just because he was so rare. Yao's game slowly improved after all the hype died down, and other players realized that Yao has game. Same applies for Jeremy, bc it's so rare. So people just need to stop hating and appreciate what is happening. After all the hype dies down...Lin's game will come through. He may never ever become a top 5 PG in the league(or he can be)...but he is the first of his kind...and he himself will show that he belongs...
     
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    Using national hatrad toward someone's money to cover the apparent national racism.....

    That's the new low of the nation.
     
  15. jimmyv281

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    Have an issue here is a tissue. You are a millionare get over it.
     
  16. Cstyle42

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    People of different races are naturally different but yet naturally the same in some ways. There is a fine line in between that when it comes to how you treat different people by their racial makeup... Could be good could be bad.
     
  17. LinHype

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    Lester Hudson? Are you talking about the guy who shot 39.1% FG, 24.6% 3-pters with an assist/turnover ratio of 1.17 last season?

    Lin shot 44.6% FG, 32% 3-pters with an assist-turnover ratio of 1.72 last season.

    And it is also stupid to use one game of Lester Hudson to compare with what Lin has done in his college career.

    Worker harder and come back with a better player. You can do it.
     
  18. jose

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    Lester Hudson: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hudsole01/gamelog/2012/

    Had a stretch of games of 23 pts 26 pts 25 pts and 19 pts all in a row, all 40%+ games. He made 50,000 on a 10 day contract and that was it. He wasn't asked to do anything but to come in garbage time and shoot 3s in the prior games which obviously gave him a bad FG%.

    Anyone who does that deserves a spot on an NBA team, there are scrub 12th men who would not be able to score 10 points against the worst team in the league on teams.

    Anyway, I'm sure if Lester was Indian for example instead, it would be highlighted and he'd still be in the league today. See how stupid things like race can work against you but also work for you? Lin had it working against him, and last season it worked for him(note I'm not promoting that behavior at all, but that's how it is unfortunately).
     
  19. NotInMyHouse

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    DM is a "no-nonsense" type of guy, but his boss on the other hand...
     
  20. roxxy

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    It doesn't matter what Les wanted. Revenue sharing occurs in the NBA. Whatever profit that people think Lin garners because of his pigmentation is split between all 30 teams.
     

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