Yes, we all like Lowry and Dragic over Lin...especially right now. However, the argument that we should have kept both of them is flawed. If we had not traded Lowry to star Toronto we would have never had the assets (Lamb and 1st round pick) to make the exchange for Harden. The argument for Dragic is different since he was a player we lost to free-agency in a slightly cheaper deal than Lin's. Difference being the option on in the final year belonged to the player in Dragic's case (the sticking point in why we didn't sign him). I preferred Dragic of the three due to his size, defense, vision, shooting, attitude, etc. He would have worked extremely well with Harden and Asik. Hopefully we see progress out of Lin as a facilitator and scorer.
can someone with searching superpowers link last year's jeremy lin thread? It's odd that some of the people that were like," Morey is a dumb dumb how does he let lin get away and we're stuck with two career backups" are the same people now that are trashing Lin. In that thread, I said I was happy to have dragic and lowry both gave us stellar PG play. Now that lin is here, I hope he grows like those guys did. Lin does know how to run the team as a PG. Most pgs, that aren't top 3 lotto picks, usually struggle with their shot early on. he is 24 and learning. You'd think lin was in his second year of that contract. It's only been 13 games.
A lot of us saw that Brooks was fools gold and even a Lowry with no jump shot was better. Brooks scores but does nothing else well. And the point was more about how Phoenix gave up on Goran too early, not about Brooks.
Actually ... that post ... was ... so ... full ... of ... dumb Brooks was terrible in everything other than shooting/scoring. Couldn't defend, run a team, get a post entry pass to Yao, pass actually, run a fast break, put pressure on the ball, and was average in steals, turnovers etc etc He was strictly an super-undersized SG that played only one end of the floor, and only very limited facets of that end well. And your post is a double dose of dumb and fail
Oh yes he certainly was. Made Lowry off the bench so much better, and couldn't throw a post entry to Yao either off the bounce or over the top.
that's just wrong. Brooks only played with Yao as a starter for like half a season, he did have trouble making that pass because he was short as hell and needed time adjusting to it. Even that doesn't make him a "terrible passer" by any means. Lowry was definitely the better passer of the two, but Brooks passing ability is right around what an average starter point guard should have. He was never an liability because he couldn't pass, he just had a shoot first mentality.
We can agree to disagree. Can't be bothered to show you his passing data. AB can be considered an average passer for a guard, but definitely and easily below average for a PG. Have you been watching too much tape of Toney Douglas to think AB was an average passer?
Jrue Holiday I think might be an all star this season. Both he and Asik should be front runners for the most improved player award.
<br> Actually this post is incredibly "full of dumb." As you like to say. <br> First off being great at shooting is no knock to anyone. Brooks was a complete offensive threat and shot ~90% from the FT line. <br> Other than that, he could set up the offense just fine. I think you're having some memory lapses or something. Because Brooks gave entry passes to Yao fairly well in the 07-08 and 08-09 seasons. He obviously couldn't throw it over the taller defender most of the time. But Brooks was very good with bounce passes. Also a point to be noted was that Brooks was not really asked to throw the entry pass in to Yao a lot of the time. Battier/McGrady/Artest were all above average at throwing the entry pass so they were given this duty more often than not. <br> I'm not saying he was a Steve Nash esque facilitator, but he set up the offense just fine. He also ran the pick and roll really well and was very adept at the fast break. His role wasn't to set up all his teammates in that offense. His scoring prowess and ability to space the floor opened up shots for everyone else. Look up how a princeton offense works brah. Lemme know when you can "be bothered" to actually post some stats to prove that he was not decent at passing. <br> That being, you really shouldn't call others "dumb" and a "fail" just because they disagree with you. But you seem like a douchebag so I'm not too surprised. <br> On topic for the this thread: Dragic did not play well tonight and got owned by Jrue Holiday. Though I think Holiday is one of the finer young pg's in the NBA right now. But no excuses, Dragic should have performed better.
Ok, career numbers (big enough sample size), how many above average PGs average at or below 5.5 assists per 36 min? Those that don't at least hit 6-7 are typically called combo guards, or scoring PGs, because they are better scorers or defenders than passers. Aaron Brooks was a super-undersized combo guard or shooting guard. I'm sure you were here during the AB days. The days when it was clear many if not most of us were frustrated that our PG couldnt get the ball to Yao, and that T-Mac and Battier were the only ones able to do so. It's not typical for a coach to tell a PG to let other players get the ball to the best offensive big man/center option in the NBA, if he could actually do it. AB was good at finishing the break, not initiating it or running it. Lowry pushing the pace on the fast break with the second unit really exposed AB's shortcomings there. Despite his quickness, AB rarely pushed the pace. I may have been harsh to say that post was full of dumb and fail. But let's put it in context. The guy was replying to another poster being full of win (so I used fail), when he used a facet of Brooks's game (20ppg) as evidence Lin may have been paid off a hot 10 game stretch. And that isn't a smart comment because Brooks is pretty much a liability every other facet of his game not related to his own scoring, which is why he has never really been able to hold down a starting PG role in Houston, Phoenix and Sacramento (and why Rockets and Phoenix cut ties with him quickly) is probably going to be a similar case. So that post was not only NOT full of win, it was actual a fail and a pretty dumb comparison. But I can accept being called a 'douche-bag'. First time though ...
I first started posting on Clutchfans during the AB/KLowry days, I can assure you that many, many people were complaining about how Yao was always fronted and no one could give him an entry pass. Brooks was not an starter-caliber point guard. His deficiencies were masked by Adelman's offense, which did not ask much of the PG outside of shooting - which AB happened to be fantastic at. There's a reason he was named MIP. His major weakness as a PG of passing was marginalized by the Rockets offense and his strengths emphasized. The result? A contract offer from another team that brought him down to earth. Brooks is a good backup, but definitely not a starter. And if you asked me why, it's because he was not a good passer.
Dragic vs Lowry. Close game, 2 mins left. Lowry bricks a mid range jumper then Dragic jumps in the air with nowhere to go and turns it over.
