There are some seriously dumb posts in this thread. Implying it's a fix by doctors to get you to come into the office and charge you money when the entire basis of the original article is that doctors are recommending to stop that practice...? Thinking OBGYN is to the birth control pill as beef producers are to beef...? What is this... bizarro world? I'm not sure how enlightening the article is. It's not that much of a surprise that easier access to something, especially if the price point stays the same (ie potentially free... though they noted this is the confusing part), leads to more people buying and taking that product. Not a real shocker there. I personally take issue with the idea of continued generations of teens and young adults basically taking birth control pills non-stop daily for years and decades. I just don't like it... but my viewpoint isn't entirely scientific, and clearly OB/GYN's out there have no problem with it...
Doctors do just want your money. I would know... They work for me and I represent them... Their actions in most cases are entirely dictated on what will keep them from being sued and make them the most money.
So I see you singling out my post. Admittedly, on the DR deal, I was trollin a bit to pose a counter argument/theory however... Are you married? Have you ever talked to a woman about what a pain in the ass [& vag for that matter] it is for women to go see these people for their check up? I've been with my wife now for almost 7 years and the red tape to getting birth control is excessive. There's always some issue with insurance or the pharmacy screwing up the prescription or somethin beyond just getting in w/ the OB. I'm actually applauding the move.
Not that it matters, but I've been married for nearly a decade. Do you have kids? If you don't and are planning on doing so, I'd recommend she stop taking the pill sooner rather than later. Again, I'm not a scientist, or a doctor, but I believe, through personal experience, that there are some long-term hormonal changes that can take some time to flush out of the system as a direct result of years of taking the birth control pill. We had trouble conceiving our first, though a few years later finally did. The second one was a snap. I've heard a lot of similar stories, though everyone is different. Though I'm not just talking about problems conceiving. Just overall, I think young, often not sexually active girls, are just put on the pill one day to help "control" their periods, and seemingly stay on it for years or decades. I'm all for preventing unwanted pregnancies. But there are a number of other ways to do so... including an often overlooked one, which at least among people in a committed relationship should have some feel for - nature! There's a limited window every cycle in which a woman can get pregnant anyway.
Thanks for sharing. Lookin to have kids ourselves soon and she got off the pill about 10 months ago. On to the next stage of life...
Long term effects of the Pill can be very damaging to the body. Wife and her sister both had stage 4 Endometriosis and difficulty conceiving - both problems likely being the result of long term use of the Pill (15yrs or so). However, I think OTC birth control pills would be great, but you have to know the consequences of long term use. It would also relieve Catholic and religious institutions from being forced to carry insurance that would fully cover birth control. With easier access, more people would produce the pill, likely leading to price competitions and lower costs. I see it as a win-win.
Because you choose to work with a certain subset of people means you know everything about and can classify the entire population people. Your logic is so so so so good! You must be really really really really really really really smart! I mean, since you know more about it than me, what else can you teach me about medicine and doctors?!?!?!?! EDUCATE ME NOOK!
When you go get new glasses they should tell you to come back after X amount of time to see how your eyes have adjusted. I'm down for the decision, as long as the pharmacists explain the risks involved.
A concern... I wonder how many young women only get a periodic exam just to get their birth control prescription. I am related to one who would never have found out she had precancerous cells had she not had to have an exam to get her prescription. Requiring an exam and prescription isn't entirely a bad thing.
live free or die. or in the case of teratogens, live free or enslave your unborn fetuses with dangerous defects!
The fact that most medications like birth control or antibiotics and many, many others need doctor's prescriptions is because of two parties: 1.) AMA and physician groups that wish to continue to be the bottleneck in the system and continue to recieve subsidies and higher income due to government action instead of true value to society. 2.) Trial Lawyers - By having these drugs prescribed it mitigates certain risks on Pharma companies and because every medication has some side affects, the pharma companies would rather do it in fear of liability. So many people are of the opinion if something is legal it is good for you and there is a lack of owning one's purchases and being an informed consumer. If you go to McDonalds everyday you'll probably be fat, if you take medication of every little ailment you'll probably suffer some side affects. I really think most of medication and medicine today simply treats to leaves and not the branches and roots of the problem. Modern physicians (like any profession) follow the money and as medicare cuts payouts and insurance companies follow suit, physicians turnover their patients more and more giving less service as its an assembly line. Physicians and AMA are a big problem as they continually to affect the supply of physicians and fight against lessening of rules concerning prescription drugs which is detrimental to society and clearly a desire to inflate incomes with the excuse of 'safety'.
He is very serious. If I remember correctly he doesn't believe in the FDA or any over sight committee.
I used to think he was one of the more sane, rational posters in the D&D. My response to you earlier was supposed to be over the top crazy, rereading it, it just sound incredibly assholy.
Back up that "truth". Can either you or he show that physicians want to keep medicine out of your hands to get them dolla dolla bills? Evidence please and thank you. I've got a crap ton to whip out and put on the table for my end of this here discussion. If you'll excuse me I'm going to go throw some bricks off of the bridges over 288, maybe I can get some quick ER money to buy a new boat before christmas!
Pray tell? Doctors are people like everyone else, but as someone that works intimately with physicians and their finances and provides counsel ... I can tell you that the best interest of the patient does not always come first.... perhaps it is wrong to hold physicians to a higher standard.
