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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Jazz 11/19/2012

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. YaoMac09

    YaoMac09 Member

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    Don't compare Lin to Rafer! Rafer is a better shooter than Lin and a much much better ball handler.
     
  2. mike_lu

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    I apologize for that. It was never meant to imply there was a common goal. Just that you seemed very edgy recently.

    On Lin, I didn't see the correction, my bad. On Cxbby, your site, but I thought the guy for the all crap he's gotten for the last year on Morris, deserved some credit for not coming back with big 'I told you so' posts and big middle fingers, and what he wrote about sample size and patience is not only correct, it also isn't anywhere as bad as what a lot of other people here get away with.

    And the James Harden running the offense is a problem post seems like a totally unnecessary posts as if you take away the #1 option on the team, especially on a team with few options at all, you're not going to be playing well. Tonight's play and outcome had nothing to do with whether Harden was running the offense or not. It just shows that the team needs Harden to play, and there's very little depth or scoring to overcome the loss of Harden on this team, regardless of who plays point. The question on the board recently was whether the Rockets play better by allowing both Lin and Harden to play their natural PG/SG roles, or to reverse the roles and have Harden play iso-centric PG and Lin a spot-up SG. Tonight's game definitely shed no light on that, cause Harden was clearly MIA due to health.
     
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  3. roxxy

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    Oh wow I am done.
     
  4. Mr. Space City

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    at least there wasn't any ariza only fans that got butthurt once you said something bad about him.
     
  5. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Hopefully morey can flip lin into someone as good as lee.
     
  6. torocan

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    Psst. Sample size.

    Assuming that last season was his best OR his ceiling based off that sample size is as pointless as assuming this season is his maximum potential.

    We really don't know what his ceiling is... what we do know is right now he has Very good court vision, an improving handle, improving defense, improving FT shooting, and is struggling with his perimeter shooting (which it's impossible to know what the actual reasons are).

    It's also hard to judge what THIS season is going to be like until all the offensive sets are sorted.

    Personally, I'm just going to let the season play out and see what happens.
     
  7. 34to11

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    Just bolstering that fact that players getting blasted around here is nothing new.

    And for the record I think Rafer got more grief than he really deserved. He only did what was asked of him.
    Unfortunately that included chucking up an inordinate amount of threes from kickouts.
    He took damn good care of the ball though (which was the greatest demand around here following the Francis era.)
     
  8. knickstorm

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    Morey always said the team and Lin would be a young and a work in progress. No one said Lin was going to be a top tier player his first year here. THe fans thought he was here to save the franchise, but what top tier player makes 5 mill? or get 25 mill over 3 years?

    That's said people need to chill out, this is a rebuilding year. It's called growing pains. If they havent made any progress by mid-season next year then it may be time to hit eject.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    Raymond Felton put up 17/9 for a WHOLE season under D'antoni. Are those role player's numbers?

    And you know how long many Rocket fans keep believing Ariza was going to turn it around??? LOL
     
  10. mike_lu

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    Because it was warranted, based on overall play. There was unanimous conclusion on this board. Just like Rafer. But they were given more than 10 games. Actually, more than a pre-season, which is all Lin got by the looks of it.

    With Lin, not so much, and certainly hard to reach after 10 games.
     
  11. SacTown

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    I still think the organization is just fine with losses this season. I believe our goal is a high lottery pick and nothing more. To make the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed would be a huge disappointment.
     
  12. teebone21

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    Delfino goes down then we go on losing streak
     
  13. youngshev03

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    His handle looks exactly the same as last year, he really can't D anyone up. He gets most of his steals on help D, not from the man he's guarding. His FT shooting is better and his perimeter shooting is the same as last year. I don't see where you see all this improvement. Hopefully, the Rockets can find a sucker to take on his contract like they did Ariza.
     
  14. Mr. Space City

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    so lin has until the end of december?

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=179442
     
  15. knickstorm

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    Basically what you sum'ed up is that Lin isn't a strong ISOLATION player which everyone already knew. He's no athletic freak but he's far from a stiff. People love bringing up the Miami guy and act like that's when he crashed back to Earth, people so easily forget, what did Lin do in the game after the Miami game? He tooled Kyrie Irving and the Cavs for 20+points 10+ assists in a blowout win.
     
  16. 34to11

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    You make valid points with well reasoned arguments but I'm afraid you are fighting a lost cause against "fans" as delusional as some of these.
     
  17. youngshev03

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    LMAO. "mid-season next year"??? You dudes are hilarious.
     
  18. tinman

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    keep educating them about the Rockets!!
     
  19. tehG l i d e

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    54 games out of a 83 game season actually. he got traded to the nuggets that season.
     
  20. 34to11

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    Who is the best player on this team? :confused:
     

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