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eremy Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by nono, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. Da_Spark

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    "Everyone's now saying that Lin is actually just an average PG and was overrated last year. Just because he isn't putting up big numbers anymore.

    But that's not because he's ****ty, but because he's not being given a chance to do his job. Which is to be the ****ing point guard. The whole offense is run through Harden, and only Harden. Lin's being used as a "pass the ball to Harden" machine instead of being given the chance to be the playmaker. He absolutely flourished in NY last year because D' Antoni's system is all about giving the PG the ball, running the pick and roll, and allowing the PG to make decisions from that point on. He's proven himself to be really good when he's actually called upon to be a ****ing point guard.

    But the Rockets coaching staff are just completely missing the point of having Lin on the team. They seem to be completely infatuated with Harden and would rather watch him run iso plays all day long. During one of the last few possessions of the last game (can't remember which team it was against. The one where the Rockets had a 21 point lead at the half), the Rockets came out of a timeout in a really tight game, and the best play the coaches could draw up was to run Harden off several screens to get free, so that Lin could pass him the ball at the three point line, then the rest of the team just ****ing STOPS moving and watches Harden. No cuts, no ball movement, just WATCH HARDEN DO HIS THING NOW!

    Seriously? You've got a PG who's shown to be very efficient at running the pick and roll and even DRIVING (one of his biggest strengths), but yet you just want him to pass the ball off to your SG who's heavily defended every single game and let your PG stand in the corner and watch? Lin isn't a spot up shooter, that has never been his strengths. His strengths are passing and driving, not the ****ing corner 3. Why the hell do you put him in the corner and let Harden have the ball and iso around like it's OKC?

    So yes, I really agree that the Rockets' coaching staff has got to go. Or at least realise that "HEY! YOU KNOW WHAT! WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT A POINT GUARD THAT CAN PASS AND DRIVE! MAYBE WE SHOULD ****ING USE HIM!"
     
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    People toss around the words broken shot or lack of confidence way to frequently. That isn't his problem his shots just aren't falling. it happens all the time & there are a lot of players that are suffering from the same thing, I was watching the GSW OKC game & Lee was missing wide open lay ups. Remember when the season started & nobody on the team could hit a bucket & our offense looked like ****. Look how much better things have been over the last two games. He is getting good looks his shots just aren't falling down it is kind of unlucky to be honest. Law of averages dictates that they will eventually fall big thing is that he needs to get to the FT line more. Last years lockout it wasn't until like 15 games in where the overall NBA FG% got better. 0.443 is this year's NBA FG% average last years lock out it was .448. Give it a bit season is still so young.
     
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    I give him 10 more games to fix his confidence before I start sh!ting him.

    This is the first game.
     
  4. NotApollo33

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    Dude's shooting 30%. Stop giving him excuses. Call it like it is.
     
  5. Akim523

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    This kind of statement always makes me laugh lol
     
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    Remember that Lowry couldn't shoot from long range when he got traded to Rockets. He eventually became a good 3-point shooter. From what I've read from a Raptors forum, he has also added a mid-range game to his arsenal. Although Lin worked hard on his jump shots during the summer, it may take some time for him to translate his improvement in practices to the court.

    Also, it is so obvious that Rockets attempts to get another star player. In the Yao/Tmac era, the ball was in either Tmac's or Yao's hand most of the time. Rafer had to adjust his game and make open shots to keep the defense honest. While Harden and the second star player are not on Tmac/Yao's level, they will demand the ball in their hands. In the long run, Lin will have opportunities to facilitate P&R and fast breaks (because those are his strengths), but he must also be able to knock down open shots to complement the star players.
     
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    Until the coaching staff makes any changes and just let Lin play his game out there.. you would just see the same type of performance for the entire season i'm afraid.
     
  8. SuperStar

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    I love how stats can somehow always put Lin in the category of all stars/stars often.
     
  9. Metta

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    Seriously? Harden is the problem here? Don't pass me the bunk sht you're smoking, brah.
     
  10. Cautiously_Op

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    Stats show what's really happening beyond what eyes can see. It's also used by coaching teams to make many of their decisions. In the long run, one game of bad stats will always lose out to long term averages. It's how good teams become good teams.
     
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    According to Hollinger's:

    Tony Parker is tied with Lin on TS%, and Westbrook is only two spots above him. Westbrook is #2 on USG, Parker is #8. Lin is #45. He is extremely underutilized and yet still able to hang with the "elite" guards when it comes to actual guard production.

    It is not his missed shots that's causing this team to lose games.
     
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    10/10
     
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    But I'm not sure how TS% has anything to do with USG

    Plus 46 TS% is pretty God awful and I'm not sure how bringing up a struggling Westbrook is helping your case. Plus Westbrook misses a lot of dumb contested shots. Lin is missing wide open shots.
     
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    Lol. Why the spamming report? The answer applies the same way to multiple posts.

    By the way, you gave Westbrook a pass, and not Lin? The kid has played 11 games.
     
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    At first I was like "oh not another jeremy lin thread" but then i saw how purposeful this one was
     
  16. apollo33

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    You didn't answer my question and I didn't give Westbrook a pass

    USG has almost nothing to do with TS%, you are comparing a dumb and struggling PG's TS% to Lin's to prove something. 46 TS% is horrible no matter if you are Westbrook or Lin, it's just for Lin it's even worse because he's been missing open shots.
     
  17. Clutch

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    You copy-pasted the same post 4 times in this thread (I removed the other 3). We can see the first one just fine.
     
  18. Cautiously_Op

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    Gotcha. I believe I spelled a word that made the meaning of the sentence seem off, so I corrected it and reposted. But I did post it twice to different comments. Thus it became four posts.
     
  19. Cautiously_Op

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    I don't agree. All of those stats are connected, which helps to produce the PER. If a player is underutilized, it will obviously affect his other stats. In effect, if he's used on the same level as Westbrook or Parker, his TS% will change. For the better or worse I have no idea.
     
  20. Metta

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    Humbling moment for you, I suppose.
     

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