ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Lakers 11/18/2012

Both lin and Hrden looked like they werent giving there all in the 4th after the lakers starterd there run.There was no intensity. Only guy who looked like he was trying was Parsons and so Morris. Asik and the supposed leaders in Harden and Lin terrible.

 

Point is stop whining. A Dragic and Lowry led team was 2 games above .500 last season. We have much better potentials now with this group. If those who really miss them and can't stop bringing these players up, just go follow those players elsewhere.

 

The Rockets don't give Lin the SCREENS he had in NY...... If they did, he'd have a lane to penetrate, then either lay it up or a shot to an open player, because the defenders then have to leave their man. It's as simple as that.

Every NBA team sets screens for its point guard. When Lin was with the Knicks, most of his shot attempts were IN THE PAINT. Because of the lack of screens, the defense doesn't allow anything. This is why nobody can penetrate on half court sets.

 

LOL. Keep Lin out. But you will have to agree to take back at least 20 points for the Rox.

 

Yeah you are right.Mind boggling to me.What exactly harden has to do with lin. If any team got harden and if he's the best player and you try to build the team around him ,not the other way.

Personally I think it's more of coaching /inexperience than players fault.Of course lin has to get his shooting but I 'll say we wont see that soon .

I try to avoid game threads unless like today my computer freeze out and i cant watch 3-4th q.I prefer chat nowadays.rednation has done a good job of putting everything in perspective

Of course I get angry at times,but I try to stay away from the pc if i have those times.

I'm a suns fan but i really want u guys to do well.

 

Were not all like you player only fans. LOF.

 

These fans only see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear, read what they want to read and believe what they want to believe.

Lin is the reason this team lost at least 4 games.

 

You have to admit the LOF's are definitely a loyal bunch.

The type of guys that would have even defended OJ to the end.

 

nice one my son....i would add that this is the first L this season that wasn't decided in the last minute....

another nice thing is that Terence Jones and Aldrich got minutes and showed some good plays and talent...

and another good thing is that asik's offensive play is visibly improving from game to game in front of our eyes

Houston has a very exciting team...season is long and i think were going into playoffs - easily

 

LOL.

I am a Lin fan, but not LOF. Those who bring up "so and so ex-players are so much better than our current players" are the player-only fans.

 

New to the board here. Yes, I am a Jeremy Lin fan (go ahead and flame away). I'm from the Bay Area and followed him throughout his senior year in high school. After he went to Harvard, I would track the majority of his games online until he played for the Warriors.

My impression of Jeremy Lin is that if he feels comfortable his game blossoms (see NY Knicks last year). When he was with the Warriors, he was RAW. He played like a fish out of water. He didn't exhibit the confidence he showed last season in NY. Jeremy Lin's shot was pretty bad during his time with the Warriors. While his shooting does seem to be appear off, from the few highlights I can see, his release seems OK.

One does have to remember that Jeremy Lin DID NOT play point guard exclusive at Harvard. By all accounts, Jeremy played the SG/SF position. Jeremy didn't have a great shot in college but his athletic ability could compensate in the Ivy League.

Unlike most NBA PG's, who played PG in college, Jeremy Lin is literally learning on the job. I have a feeling that Jeremy Lin avoids shooting too much because he is having trouble switching gears. The best PG's know when to score and attack or drive and dish.

Jeremy Lin's OLD MO (pre NY) was just to attack. He seems to have did a 180 and trying to be more of a pure PG. What Jeremy needs to do is to find the middle ground. Pass if it's the best. Shoot or attach the rim if that's the better option.

 

LOL. Good scapegoating.

 

This is getting to the point I hope Lin gets traded....... He has walked into a trap of an ghastly-ineptly coached team...... A coaching staff that cannot see the core problem, which happens to be lack of decent screens on offense. And a coach staff that is totally oblivious to matchups.

 

If you think whenever we face a strong team and lost means our players are not trying enough, then I seriously doubt your ability to understand the games. There are a lot factors affecting players performance in a game, the game plan, the defense pressure, the 3 pointer luck, the team/opponent team rotations, etc... I guess you only watch the score box like many stupid whiner here. Harden is NOT terrible, Lin is NOT terrible. Could they do better in some areas? of course, like Lin's shooting. But using exaggeration saying they are terrible will only show how ignorant or how biased you are.

 

It's just part of the learning experience for both of these guys.

It's going to take time, the Rockets know and everyone knows.

They've had a pretty tough schedule, yeah they should have beat Portland at least once...but it is what it is. Outside of not splitting the Portland game this team did not lose to a team they shouldn't have had.

People need to calm down and realize that only 10 games have been played.

Lin haters need to realize he's a inexperienced player that needs to get better.

Harden haters need to realize that this role is new to him and on top of that he needs someone to come take the pressure off of him. The Rockets have no one else they can literally throw the ball to and say "Go score." ...well I think Morris can do that but they don't really ever draw up any play for him outside of a 3 point shot now...

 

Still not sure how I feel about this team going forward. I still think we're missing a legit number one option, Harden is ok as a number two but he's not a team leader type. Other than Harden we have a bunch of D-league players with limited potential. Nobody on the team besides Harden and maybe Morris can shoot the ball with any consistency. You're not going to win too many games when you only have two guys who can shoot and yet you jack up three pointers all night long.

The team is a mess, and I don't get any sort of feeling that there is a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere. Unless Morey has some more moves up his sleeve, it is what it is and I don't see this team ever being good enough to compete for anything more than an 8th spot, which is exactly the same as last year.

 

a good pg who puts in 18 pts 10 assists a game? yea all of 0 players were able to average that last year

 

Says the infamous Lin hater on this board.

 

I've followed the Rox since 2000. Lost my job twice and moved around. Finally got on the board again to see the Rox finally rebuilding.

It's sad to see the same problems in the organization and the same reactionary but loyal fans, looking for scapegoats because they desire winning so much. Quite understandable.

I am glad though to see some seasoned fans that are more patient with a brand new Houston Rockets product.

 

The coaching has been pretty lame, but you guys have to realize this is the GARM. Players get burned if they don't perform. The sooner you guys accept no Rocket is below criticism until they take us to the promise land, the easier it will be.

It's been 10 games and if you look at his efficiency rating Lin is in the bottom 5 of starting PG's in the league. Some backups are outperforming him.