like I said if Lin is expected to be a spot up shooter, run to the 3 point line camp out and take a shot... then I would have rather he stayed in NY . . Under McHale, Lin is expected to handle the ball the majority of the time in a pick-and-roll-heavy offense. The Rockets’ offense last year was similar to the offense under the former Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni. Linsanity reached its highest point when Lin was running D’Antoni’s offense in February. “I told him he has a lot to learn and a lot of room to grow,” McHale said of Lin. “In our league, he’s just a young puppy, especially with the ball in his hands.” Will Linsanity continue in Houston? McHale hopes so. http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/18/mchale-sees-lin-as-a-starter-and-a-leader/
Lin drew me back to basketball to... I first started watching the NBA, and the Sonics win a Title in 1979... but kind of drifted away a bit... when you had star players all decide to play on one team... I will probably watch the Laker game... see how they utilize Lin... it will be no fun to watch the guy camping out at the 3 point line... need some excitement to keep me watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6MiCMJna-Y
Although, it may seem like to some fans of Jeremy Lin that the coaching staff are not supporting his development enough (if we base it only on easy numbers like points scored and time played).... we should take a broader and more reasoned perspective that there is a long term investment plan being followed. it seems more likely to me that what they are doing now is for his overall long term success and not based on some prejudiced desire to sabotage Jeremy's development. People use the $25 million investment in Lin as a reason to shout that his talents are being wasted. Which seems odd to me because I would expect the people spending the money would be most aware of the value of what they are paying for and would be most focused on not wasting it. My point being let's trust that Morey and Les are fully aware of how much they spent and will protect and nurture that investment. Fans know Jeremy can score and he can dish too, but I've been pleasantly surprised at how well he's done so far to counter criticisms about his defense, turnovers, and playmaking, in just 9 games. He is a more complete PG and better player for it. Add the injury he came off from and the long time off the court, the slow pace of his offensive inclusion is not a bad thing for his development. Of course it is a bad thing for fans who want to see the brilliance of last year's run. Maybe there is some method to the perceived madness. Maybe focusing on Hardin to be a dominant go-to-guy is something he hadn't been known for and is now being nurtured to develop into? Maybe Asik is being pushed to be an offensive force to complement his amazing defensive prowess? Maybe the sophomore forwards are being given their time to develop into possible pieces of the championship puzzle? Maybe Jeremy Lin is also being groomed to be more than just Linsanity? I will be the first to admit I am a big fan of Lin's. But I'm new to Clutch and a new Houston fan. Still in just a few months I have become more than just a Lin fan and have really adopted this young team whose growing story I can follow from the beginning. Let's be patient, and have faith, not only in the team and coaches, but Jeremy as well. I am sure with all the adversity his been through he knows how to look after himself and his future more than his passionate fans. Most of all let's enjoy this ride we're beginning and not try peak at the end or dictate where it should go!
I can't imagine why anyone would go to a team's fan message board and wish injury upon any of their players for any reason other than to troll and provoke angry reactions. It's a pretty pathetic way to get your jollies to be honest.
Ok fair enough it was a risk worth trying.nobody could have 100 % predicted the outcome. But choice 2 has proven to be a fail. Can we agree on that ? And move on?
First of all, Minnesota didn't have another capable ball-handler, shot-creator in the back-court. Lin was fantastic on isolation plays last year. This year, he's struggled. In preseason, without Harden, he also struggled. Maybe he's still recovering from his knee issues. Lin's shot-creation abilities stems from his ability to score. If he can't put the ball in the basket, he won't be as effective creating shots for others. Rubio is a different type of player, a pure point-guard with elite court-vision and passing skills.
How did it fail? Is Jeremy supposed to play all 48 minutes a night or will you LOF'ers give Sampson the ability to call a sub every once in awhile? Jeremy isn't going anywhere for awhile. He's going to keep getting starters minutes. Nobody is taking his job away from him. People just need to calm down.
That's a great post and even plausible if you give the coaches the benefit of the doubt but benching Lin for all of OT just doesn't fit in this hypothesis.
Lin's 11 assists in Portland shows that he is quite effective at creating shots for others. In the seven games since the start of iso-Beard-ball, Lin has 45 assists and Harden 28. This alone shows that Lin is better at running an offense. But even such a clear gap understates Lin's dominance: he was able to maintain the nearly 2-to-1 assist advantage over Harden on far lower usage. So the conclusion is that it's not close: that Lin is vastly better than the Beard at running an offense. There really is no excuse for not playing Lin as PG.
You just don't sit out your starting PG for the entire OT unless he's injured or fouled out or ypu're doing it to make a statement. Especially after you praised his "exceptional defense" two nights ago and he has a double-double in the game at hand. And "playing Toney Douglas for the entire OT" is not a remote solution to any problems in this entire universe.
I am not talking about pre-season it is fools gold in so many ways. Even if Lin was averaging 20 & 10 it would be pointless to bring up pre-season. Both harden & Lin have struggled on isolation plays this year when both last year were fantastic. The Knicks and Thunder both had plenty of talent spread throughout the court, thus allowing Lin and Harden to excel in isolation without teams being able to collapse on one single player. That isn't the case in Houston. His knee is fine but neither Lin/Hardens isolation scoring will ever be what it was before unless guys consistently make 3 point shots to spread the defense or we upgrade the PF position. Rockets needs to set better screens (they don't set many & the few that they do set are trash) to break him/ Harden free right now that isn't happening & likely won't get better for a while. Despite his low FG% this Lin has found other ways to set his teammates up for high percentage shots. Lin's passing is way better than last year there are things that he is doing now that he was never able to do before. Last night guys were just hitting shots that they just weren't able to hit before. Turning him into Derrick Fisher is not a recipe for success ask GSW. The ball needs to be in his hands more, not 100% of the time but definitely not as low as it was before yesterdays game.
You see, it is quite self-destructive to talk race and racism with some RANDOM guy in Texas. Of course there are a lot of individual Texans that are open minded, but from a statistical point of view, you are much more likely to get denials and sarcasms, so say the least. This is almost self evident by the simple fact that whenever talking about a Lin fan, or a Yao fan previously, many posters simply use the term Asian fan for convenience. AND they simultaneously deny there is anything racial about it. It is hard to get to these people how racially offensive it is, for Chinese of course, but maybe equally if not worse, for non Chinese Asians, and even non-Asian sports fans who happen to love Lin and/or Yao. This is also evident in one of the posters' PS in one of the discussion threads regarding Lin's benching that He is white AND a Lin fan. It's so sad that sometimes you just have to laugh it off. It is perhaps just pure accident, but before the last game against Portland, I was helping a kid on his SAT reading section. And the passage was on gender bias in the late 19th and early 20th century. It gave an example of a female zoologist being passed on multiple times for a position that she was more than qualified for simply because her male colleagues thought that she should have just taken a high school teaching job and be satisfied with it. And then I was presented with facts by some Lin supporters regarding his previous continuous success coupled with continuous denial and rejection, if he got the attention at all. For many, Lin should just be satisfied that he went to Harvard, reaffirming his 'Asian' stereotype. These people who constantly ignore or reject Lin even when presented with the hard stats are no different than those male colleagues of that female zoologist in the late 19th and early 20th century. You hear it, more than one hundred years passed and nothing seems to have changed much. It was sad to see all those Yao-bashing threads and posts on this forum simply because he was injured. But then you might think maybe it was not just race, it could be nationality and the politics associated with that. But Lin is American. And how many posters here simply refer to him as someone benefiting from the market drive for the "Asians"? While there is no easy treatment for the lack of awareness of racism, you might want to get familiar with the fact that people in this country played the racial card against their own president and got away with that. So while many urge the Lin supporters to lower your expectations of Lin for one reason or another, the Lin supporters on this forum might as well lower your expectations for a non-racial forum. There are certainly a lot of good reasons to come visit this forum. The fast replays, the play by play analysis, the salary cap calculation, and who doesn't love imaginary trade scenarios? But while it is perfectly ok to show some love to some individual players on other teams, or those who are not on this team anymore, get used to get bashed for defending your "Asian" player on the account of team basketball and you can laugh it off by realizing how the concept of 'team' or 'nation,' or any term that signifies a collective sense, is so 'Asian' and 'Socialist' in the mind of those same people.
You get denials and sarcasms because there's no proof of it. Just like conspiracy theories. It' doesn't belong in a basketball forum and should be in D and D.
lol, I think museums may be some of the few places where everything in it has some kind of proof, but a basketball forum?
