[Uh-Oh]Israel and Gaza on the brink of all out WAR

Yes, very sad. Just like it was sad that Anwar El Sadat was murdered after an Islamist mullah had issued a Fatwa against him.

 

Follow the news much? Egypt, Tunisia.

 

pretty funny article from the onion.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/is...g&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default

Israel Calls For Increase In U.S. Taxes To Fund Attacks On Gaza

 

Almost a perverse Karmic cycle. I had heard that one thing that kept Arafat from accepting the Camp David proposal was that he was afraid of ending up like Rabin and Sadat and being assassinated by one of his own people.

 

If my house was the scene of an ongoing war for 70 years because it was built on a holy land that was extremely unstable then, yes, yes I would. I would start afresh and make the best of my new opportunity, as anyone with compassion and a brain would do. If I was a religious man, I wouldn't be so insecure as to live on the source that exists within my mind... I could always visit.

Right now the Israeli's have brains, but no compassion. Palestinian's have neither.


Regulated.

 

They are rapidly losing support in the US, too, except for die hard Christian fundamentalists who seek rapture after they convert the Jews. These fundamenalists are losing power in the US as women start to realize how US fundamentalists might take away their access to contraception and or abortions.

Support in Congressman and among other segments is paper thin and based on fear of the lobby which also is losing its hold.

The one state solution is coming as facts on the ground abetted by even some relatively liberal US Jews support of right wing Israel and settlment construction, making the two state solution less and less possible.

 

Is it okay if babies and children die in an attack on that building, then?

 

Really? So even though your family had lived there for generations had built up farms and businesses and the fighting was caused by those other people you would just leave? I highly doubt you would be that sanguine about it.

I am sure both people appreciate that assessment.

Catchphrase!

 

It is never okay for babies and children to die. If we can take out OBL, Israel sure as hell should be able to target the leadership of an organization they claim is terrorizing them, and sitting less than a hundred miles away.

Israel chooses to take the evil way out of this, they choose to bomb civilian populated targets, they choose to target women, children and babies.

Their government is no different than the terrorist leaders that send suicide bombers into the heart of Israeli cities.

 

I don't know why this thought is so odd to you. I would leave without a moment's hesitation. As an American, I may chose to move when I have none of those major problems, just foresee a better life for my family elsewhere. I will certainly attempt to move if it is much worse than that.

the issue is the inability of many Palestinians to actually move, much less even be cognizant of the fact that they should maybe attempt to do it.

The whole area is so ingrained in the sense of their land / holy land, whatever. Maybe I'm the odd duck here, but I do not find it to be a redeeming trait. Honoring land or a place makes no sense to me, even if you truly and honestly believe it is the holiest place on earth.

So it would or would not be okay for them to drop bombs on the building in the photo you posted?

 

Arafat probably would've been assassinated but I doubt it would've avoided the other blood shed.

 

If Israel were to offer citizenship (which by the way would allow Palestinans to claim land they owned from the Ottoman age) to select Arabs, Druze, and Palestinans, I think there would be a step towards a resolution (although it wouldn't solve everything, nor I suppose, would it be a truly "Jewish state").

 

As you note many of the Palestinians can't move without losing everything. Consider too that millions of Palestinians moved when Israel was formed and they are still refugees to this day. Moving in this case isn't just like saying I am going to move from Bellaire to the Woodlands it is the uprooting of everything you have known and your livelihood.

Anyway if things are so bad why should the onus be on the Palestinians to move?

If the argument is that they should do so out of their own good why then should the Israelis not move for their own good?

Not saying that they should but the argument that the Palestinians should just move just betrays a bias. Israel is a fact and isn't going to disappear but so are the Palestinians. Both have a right to the land and in the long run are going to have to live with each other.

 

The fact that you can equate the OBL takedown with an enemy WHO IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR shows that you have no clue what you're talking about. If Mexico tomorrow started firing rockets at Texas tomorrow, the US wouldn't just try some surgical strike on the leadership - one which won't likely fix anything even if it succeeds.

And do you honestly think Israel is bombing them because they're MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA evil? Get your cartoon image out of your head. Actually, there's cartoons which have a more nuanced view than what you seem to be thinking.

 

Not to mention Israel HAS been targeting Hamas leaders... senior leaders Ahmed al-Jabari and Ahmed Abu Jalal have both been killed.

 

Yep, and along with them 30 or so civilians.
State Sponsored Terrorism.

 

If the US went in and took over 90% of Mexico, you can rest assured the remaining 10% would be firing Rockets into Texas all day long.

 

"Israel should try and target the leadership of the Hamas, BUT if they kill any civilians in this very densely populated area they are mean terrorists!!"