Royce White skips game and practice (UPDATE: White issues statement)

I agree. It's impossible to parse out because his life experience and the worldview he develops from it is going to be affected by his condition. There is no way around it.

It is indeed possible that his need to focus on his own inner world in trying to deal with his condition might have led to a slowing down of the psychological maturation process.

Because of this, the Rockets need to be very careful and make sure they behave like the adults in the situation. Royce is effectively functioning at below the maturity level he should have at this point and it's not all his fault. Aside from Bullard's comments, I think the Rockets as an organization are handling it well.

 

This is a great interview. Terrific insight into Royce's thought process through this whole thing. Sorry if already posted-


http://www.yahoosportsradio1560.com...e-on-royce-whites-struggle-with-anxiety-7315/


-Thinks that McHale leaving was a major trigger
-He believes this is an episode, and Royce does not know what he's doing rationally.
-explains own personal story with his son, and how he deals with episodes personally
-Thinks that the Rockets should wait it out, and see what happens throughout his rookie contract.
-Wants the Rockets to understand that these are not rational thoughts coming from Royce, and they need to understand that.
-Says after they give it enough time, and if he doesn't learn to trust them over time, you can let him go. The conclusion has to come from his decision to trust the Rockets.

 

You are projecting alot of speculation as fact. The media reports that have presented to this point say that he missed several practices after complaining of physical symptoms. The doctor said they are mental problems, not physical. Rocket's want him to see their doctor any time he has symptoms that will cause him to miss team functions, he wanted to see his own. Anything beyond that is speculation regarding motivations.

What does his choice of school have to do with his behavior as a player? You can say you think he will be a bust even if he get's past his mental issues, but his "stat padding" included outplaying everyone on the Kentucky team last year. They play in the big 12, it's not like he was a division 3 player. His projected performance doesn't really have anything to do with the topic.

It's public information that he suffers from a mental condition and there is no reason to believe he "diagnosed himself". It was professionally diagnosed in 2008, and he has been dealing with it for a long time. You really think the Rocket's drafted him without having any of their doctors give an assessment? You can speculate that he is using his condition as a crutch and/or excuse for mistakes he has made, but you can't really make an educated arguement that he doesn't have a mental disorder and have anyone take you seriously. He said he suffers from PTSD, he didn't diagnose himself or say that it was caused by the Rocket's not playing him. Unless you have access to his medical psych evaluations I don't know what you are using to despute his claim? Lots of misinformation being stated as fact.

He never made a legal threat... The statement that he will get it all back? That's hardly the same thing as saying he is going to sue the Rockets. Appealing the fine would be the most likely scenario.

Criticizing White's behavior and the handling of his condition is to be expected under the circumstances, but basicly saying mental illness is a fraud is seriously misinformed.

 

That's probably true, counting clinical depression, postpartum depression, etc.

 

We do love to watch pharmaceutical ads on TV and then self diagnose.

 

At the end of the day, the only thing matters is if he can develop to be a star. If not, who cares how it ends. If so, just forget about this issue and find a solution.

 

He's going to be under contract for 2 years min anyways,and from the interview with Morris it doesn't seem like he's talking to any of the guys in the locker room so it won't really affect the team chemistry, just let it play out and maybe eventually he'll get it.

 

There is nothing speculative at all about Royce White's motivations when he tells the Internet he will get his fine money back and that he has recently diagnosed himself with PTSD because he wasn't given playing time with the Rockets. We need not sit here and debate what is going on in his mind because he's been giving us constant updates every day.

Oh you didn't know? Royce White ended up at Iowa State because he couldn't stop lying, stealing, and elevating himself above others back in Minnesota. He's had very little in the way of "choices" of where to play other than ending up with teams stupid enough to take him. Which unfortunately now includes the Rockets.

On the contrary, the worse talent Royce White is as a player, the less inclined organizations like the Rockets are to bite on the prima donna act and go beyond what is reasonable to accommodate him.

Royce White listed the litany of disorders he (supposedly) suffers from. New to the list? PTSD, of call things. Yes, the disorder shell-shocked military vets suffer from after seeing the faces of human beings destroyed by mortar fire and their comrades in arms die before their eyes. Royce White says he diagnosed himself with it, and that the event that caused it was his not getting playing time on the Rockets. *shrug* His words, my friend, not mine. Although now he's started to delete his tweets. Now? I mean after all THIS, he's going to start deleting now??

I have enlightening news to share with you. Schools often go to great lengths in order to excuse the criminal conduct of their players. That is undoubtedly how this started, except Royce decided to just run with it for the next 4 years because he kept getting special treatment because of it.

One school I attended, for example, had a player who was really into breaking and entering and sexual assaults. Pretty awful stuff. Since he was a great player, our best player, he never faced criminal prosecution for any of this. I apologize that I'm not allowed to provide more detail, and you're free to accept this any way you wish. You can think I'm just some random stranger on the internet with a vague anecdote, or you can at least accept my point, which is that these narratives are usually fabricated to keep players on the court.

Use your head. The player's union has forsaken him, which means there is no appeals process for the fines. How else does he intend to get "his" money back?

Come on now.

 

Lincoln, FDR, MLK, Gandhi, Churchill, JFK, and Gen. Sherman each had some form or another of mental illness.

Many of your favorite musicians, actors, and other artists do/did too.

Is it your position that the person that emancipated the slaves or the person that pulled us out of the Great Depression should not have been hired? MLK attempted suicide twice in his life and Gandhi attempted suicide at least once. Lincoln was a major depressive; the Springfield paper declared him "Insane" on its front page and when he was in the state legislature he missed about as many votes as Jesse Jackson, Jr. has due to not being able to get out of bed. From depression. He was under the care of what passed for a psychiatrist in those days for a month, during which time the doctor shared a room with Lincoln. And he gave a friend his knife to hold when he walked through the woods because he felt certain he would harm himself had he not. A lot of people think Lincoln did some good. But let's not listen to him or the rest -- they're just head-cases.

According to you if we'd elected Lincoln (or FDR or JFK) as president or paid heed to the words of MLK "America [would be] ****ed." It's lucky that you're not in charge.

 

great find.

 

not sure if his last few tweets are real...

one saying the rockets are a terrible organization and another talking smack to bullard..

if so, he's really going out all guns blazing

 

can you imagine if royce white or someone like him was president and thought "THE RED BUTTON" was a twitter feed!!!!!

 

Maybe you are looking at the fake account rolyat3 (or similar) started?

 

I suffer from panic attacks and terrible anxiety. But I have managed it in a way that everyone around me would be surprised if I told them.

 

The worst thing you can do in such an instance is not play the poor-little-me- card. It only makes it worse and makes you feel damaged. When you have a chip on your shoulder it really helps deal with it, medication deff helps too.

 

that's a fake account. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=229386&page=4

 

His twitter's title is "Humanitarian, Writer, Entrepreneur, Director and Imaginer."

Wojnarowski: "White has turned down NBA D-League assignments, missed practices and conditioning workouts and tried to convince Rockets officials that his anxiety order would be much, much better if they would simply play him in games. This isn't a negotiation, and never will be."

Tell me folks, can you not see the delusions of grandeur in his eyes?

 

I'm not close to the situation to know what the communications are like....but when I read what Woj just wrote there in that last post, I find it very difficult to believe this situation is going to be resolved with him remaining a Houston Rocket.

 

they dont trust each other.

if both of them wanna trust, CUT!

 

So well said.